More African-American Babies Aborted in NYC Than Born

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You can lead a bird to water but you can't make it drink. Yes we can go all out for campaigns (where the money coming from for this?) but what good is it if the person in charge of the child doesn't wanna listen. I wanna see the education level of those aborting cause the idiots of the race don't need to reproduce. While the smarter ones do.
And what's this get black people on the same page ish? Name one thing black people are on the same page about and the last time we were on the same page about something?


When abortion is exceeding your live birth rate in a given year then there has to be proactive solutions on ways to reverse the current trends taking place if we expect to exist in this country for the long term.

Poverty in the western part of the world is totally different than the back breaking poverty you see in the third world. so I don't know what you mean by poverty because the average poor person in the first world(America) lives a middle class life compared to impoverished countries in the developing world.

As of right now there are no standards in the black community on acceptable behavior or proper parenting techniques. Money is not required to promote a certain way of living and how we raise our children. We create popular trends every year amongst ourselves when it comes style of clothing, entertainment etc so I'm sure that if we decided to promote a code of conduct on how we conduct ourselves and how we raise our children it would pick up across the country.

For those who don't listen need to be ridiculed,shamed, ostracized, shunned and if necessary reported to child protective services
 
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You're right....in the long run, this is the only option really.

It's just hard to see us losing ground in raw numbers every year and feeling helpless to stop it.

Of course, then you look over at the Jews and how they are organized....a small ethnic group can build DYNASTIES in this country if it is willing to fight for it.

I hate when black people make the Jewish comparison because black people wouldn't have the protection that Jewish people have as a very small minority in this country.

In other words black people are hated so much that if our numbers were reduced to the level of the Jewish population it would be easier to round us up or kills us off.

The Jews in Germany weren't able to defend themselves because of their small population so it was easy for Hitler to round them up then do what ever he wanted to do with them.

plenty of white people in America still hate black ppl and would love to do what Hitler did but the only thing that has stopped them is our population numbers throughout the country have been fairly high.
 

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When abortion is exceeding your live birth rate in a given year then there has to be proactive solutions on ways to reverse the current trends taking place if we expect to exist in this country for the long term.

Poverty in the western part of the world is totally different than the back breaking poverty you see in the third world. so I don't know what you mean by poverty because the average poor person in the first world(America) lives a middle class life compared to impoverished countries in the developing world.

As of right now there are no standards in the black community on acceptable behavior or proper parenting techniques. Money is not required the nation was dinner lol how with black people should raise our children. We create popular trends every year amongst ourselves when it comes style of clothing, entertainment etc so I'm sure that if we decided to promote a code of conduct on how we conduct ourselves and how we raise our children.

For those who don't listen need to be ridiculed shamed, ostracized, shunned and if necessary reported to child protective services

1. i never mentioned poverty anywhere in my initial post so idk where that's coming from
2. i wouldn't consider fashion trends something that should be compared to what people should do with a child they may or may not have. and even then there's not one page we as blacks are on when it comes to that :heh: you picked two easily disposable things to make your case fashion and entertainment, bad examples chief.
3. and you're right there is no code we have people with multiple partners they have children with, their unmarried, raised in single homes, child support courts, foster homes etc now is all of that good for a child? would you want a child to come into that situation? maybe that's why these abortions are for the better.
 

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So in other words you want black people to continue down a path of reckless irresponsible behavior without making any concrete steps towards emprovment?

Basically you want to maintain the status quo? You display the LAZY backwards logic of not wanting to do anything I continue to talk about with in the black community.

Instead of trying to raise the standards like any logical sane thinking person with self respect you rather take the lazy route and just accept things the way they are.

A lack of accountability and self control is what causes men to have multiple baby mothers.

Do you think black men are the only ones with multiple baby mothers in this country and that somehow prevents them from instilling proper values into their children and the women they impregnate?These aren't justifiable reasons for abortion because men set the tone and women will follow.

You have proven my entire point.

The reason why black people as adults and our children are failing is a lack of collectivism on the direction we want our race to go.

Whites, Asians, Hispanics and Arabs may not agree on everything but they are on the same page when it comes to certain issues.

This is where black people have dropped the ball and it explains why there is no progression on a collective level.

If we can create popular trends amongst ourselves from clothing, entertainment, slang and dance that spreads nation wide I'm sure we can encourage or promote a code of conduct and proper ways to raise our children that will do the same.

For example: as a race if we all made a collective agreement nationwide to prepare our children at an early age to become lawyers, doctors, teachers service technicians, computer programmers...etc our future would be a lot brighter.


I don't like small minded black men like you. as a matter of fact, I would like to see ones who think like you dead because you put us in great danger by promoting this abortion agenda while knowing that we're having more abortions than live births.
1. i never mentioned poverty anywhere in my initial post so idk where that's coming from
2. i wouldn't consider fashion trends something that should be compared to what people should do with a child they may or may not have. and even then there's not one page we as blacks are on when it comes to that :heh: you picked two easily disposable things to make your case fashion and entertainment, bad examples chief.
3. and you're right there is no code we have people with multiple partners they have children with, their unmarried, raised in single homes, child support courts, foster homes etc now is all of that good for a child? would you want a child to come into that situation? maybe that's why these abortions are for the better.
 
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So in other words you want black people to continue down a path of reckless irresponsible behavior without making any concrete steps towards emprovment?

Basically you want to maintain the status quo? You display the LAZY backwards logic of not wanting to do anything I continue to talk about with in the black community.

Instead of trying to raise the standards like any logical sane thinking person with self respect you rather take the lazy route and just accept things the way they are.

A lack of accountability and self control is what causes men to have multiple baby mothers.

Do you think black men are the only ones with multiple baby mothers in this country and that somehow prevents them from instilling proper values into their children and the women they impregnate?These aren't justifiable reasons for abortion because men set the tone and women will follow.

You have proven my entire point.

The reason why black people as adults and our children are failing is a lack of collectivism on the direction we want our race to go.

Whites, Asians, Hispanics and Arabs may not agree on everything but they are on the same page when it comes to certain issues.

This is where black people have dropped the ball and it explains why there is no progression on a collective level.

If we can create popular trends amongst ourselves from clothing, entertainment, slang and dance that spreads nation wide I'm sure we can encourage or promote a code of conduct and proper ways to raise our children that will do the same.

For example: as a race if we all made a collective agreement nationwide to prepare our children at an early age to become lawyers, doctors, teachers service technicians, computer programmers...etc our future would be a lot brighter.


I don't like small minded black men like you. as a matter of fact, I would like to see ones who think like you dead because you put us in great danger by promoting this abortion agenda while knowing that we're having more abortions than live births.

do you know how to read? you obviously don't know how to compose an argument. where the hell are you getting any of this from what I typed? Problems should be fixed before adding more people to the problems, but you want to come out with these imaginary arguments against me.
and you want my type dead but i'm a successful productive black man but you want me dead cause I'd rather not have a kid grow up in a shytty environment...I'm done with you I'm not gonna argue with a fool
 

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do you know how to read? you obviously don't know how to compose an argument. where the hell are you getting any of this from what I typed? Problems should be fixed before adding more people to the problems, but you want to come out with these imaginary arguments against me.
and you want my type dead but i'm a successful productive black man but you want me dead cause I'd rather not have a kid grow up in a shytty environment...I'm done with you I'm not gonna argue with a fool

Both can be done at the same time.

We can add more while imposing a code of conduct on parenting.

If the current abortion trends in New York continue black people will not be able to rebound population wise in the future so following your logic we would wipe ourselves out and the abortion trend in New York would spread across the country further desimating the black population .

We don't have time to wait on fixing the problem. the problem must be fixed while we continue to give birth(reduce abortions) in record numbers.

The main reason I hate black dudes like you is because you don't understand the seriousness of the situation of black people being a permanent minority in America.

I guess your brain is too small which is keeping you from seeing the bigger picture.

Now run away like a little bytch.
 

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Both can be done at the same time.

We can add more while imposing a code of conduct on parenting.

If the current abortion trends in New York continue black people will not be able to rebound population wise in the future so following your logic we would wipe ourselves out and the abortion trend in New York would spread across the country further desimating the black population .

We don't have time to wait on fixing the problem. the problem must be fixed while we continue to give birth(reduce abortions) in record numbers.

The main reason I hate black dudes like you is because you don't understand the seriousness of the situation of black people being a permanent minority in America.

I guess your brain is too small which is keeping you from seeing the bigger picture.

Now run away like a little bytch.

My brain is surely a lot bigger than yours. You're trying to paint this utopian picture instead of a real life picture. Truth be told kids fukk your life up especially when you're not ready for them/don't want them to begin with.
If a girl gets an abortion at 22 doesn't mean she won't have a child when she feels she's ready and mature enough to at 30
 

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What utopian picture am I trying to paint?

I'm just telling you that the current abortion rate in a city like New York is unacceptable for black people as a collective group. Your argument is that better parenting skills need to be instilled in individuals before the abortion problem can be fixed and I object to that notion. Both can be done at the same time by fixing the parenting problem while encouraging more Black births.


If a person not ready for kids then they should either abstain from sex or use the proper safety precautions to prevent an UN wanted pregnancy.

You make it seem like African Americans are the only poor people in America when there are others who face the same financial situations that black people face but they still manage to expand their population.

Why?because they don't settle for less than.
My brain is surely a lot bigger than yours. You're trying to paint this utopian picture instead of a real life picture. Truth be told kids fukk your life up especially when you're not ready for them/don't want them to begin with.
If a girl gets an abortion at 22 doesn't mean she won't have a child when she feels she's ready and mature enough to at 30
 

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To some extent this article is sensationalist bullshyt...yes, there are too many black people getting abortions but the article makes it sound like black people are dying out or the black population is shrinking, which is simply untrue. The birth rate isn't low enough that something like that is a legit concern. And forcing every chick that gets pregnant to have the baby (regardless of whether she would be able to afford/raise a kid) would only exacerbate existing problems in the black community.

That said, I dislike abortion as much as anyone and would certainly like to see lower numbers. But the way to do that is better sex education and more widely available contraception, rather than trying to outlaw abortion (which won't happen, and would create a black market for abortions even if it did) or force chicks to go through with unplanned pregnancies.
 
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