More and more Latinos are Embracing their "Whiteness"

[GiGi]

Then, carry on with your miopic perspective that everything has to convert to USA experience; no one is downplaying numbers, I gave you an example of the reasons why they are rarely seen; matter of fact, Colombia is a good example of African descendants staying in one part of the country for generations. I'm done.

1) I have traveled the world so I have a broader perspective from which I am referencing

2) We are talking about the United States in this thread

3) I have encountered so MANY Latinos who are ignorant of their own history, particularly when it pertains to the African presence in Latin America, that it is often difficult to take some of them seriously

I'm through

 

[GreatestLaker]

Latino isn't a race. Why would anyone have a problem with Ricky Martin, Cameron Diaz etc identifying as white?

 

[FakeNews]

[]I no black, papi [/]

Yall be killing me when you say this

 

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none of those other forums have these smilies tho

and i dont see where these things are getting worse except in cali among street gangs and prison gangs. here in ny blacks and latinos get along just fine minus the occasional fight here and there. even then, u might see a black fighting a dominican and the dominican might have 2 or 3 black friends with him watching his back and the black might have a dominican or 2 watching his. so idk where this race war is going on at.

Beanz, you tend to be intellectually dishonest Latino and their anti Black attitudes:


http://www.salon.com/2014/05/20/a_m..._confronting_anti_black_racism_among_latinos/

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

So heres the shyt that bugs me. So I live in New Mexico, fukking south side of my town is fukking little Tijuana. My mom lives out there and I did for like 10 years. 90% of everything out there is in Spanish and you dont speak Spanish and your brown skinned your fukking dumb as far as Mexicans out there are concerned. But check this, there claiming fukking Mexico right, but there fukking dipped out in American Eagle, Aeropostle, fukking white washed as day. Everything about them is. No fukking representation of being Mexican except the language.

If your brown and you dont speak English, its a wrap, but if you white they fukking give you a pass like its fukking nothing. Im not saying they need to be fukking cholo'd out but fukking shyt, talk about crabs in the bucket.

 

[Amulet of Immortality]

Don't most here say latino/hispanic isnt a race anyway? What's the big deal if they check white?



For what it's worth, I have a limited view of who I consider white. I don't consider people like Armenians "white" guys for example.

There are three races,

Asians - Slanty eyes
blacks - Sheep hair
Whites - Everyone else

Native Americans = Asians/White hybrids

Eskimos = Asian/White hybrids

etc.etc.

Latina/Latino/Hispanic = NOT a race. Just a classification of the geographic in which one resides. You can be an Asian/black/White Hispanic. Depends on if you have the above traits.

 

[beanz]

Beanz, you tend to be intellectually dishonest Latino and their anti Black attitudes:


http://www.salon.com/2014/05/20/a_m..._confronting_anti_black_racism_among_latinos/

oh i guess if somebody from salon.com wrote an op-ed piece from one perspective, it must be true all accross the board.

there was an anti-black attitude in my family growing up for about 1 generation, the old people. my grandparents. my mother's been a social worker with black and latino families for 20 years and my dad went to junior high and high school in majority black schools, so no that doesnt apply to me or any of my friends. racial jokes, yes, just like blacks joke on whites and latinos, we joke on whites n blacks, but i can never honestly say i have ever felt like a person was beneath me because they were african american or anything else. so whatever breh continue with your hate campaign ill continue being my dominican harlemite self


EDIT: i read the article and now im reading the comments. here's a couple i found worth noting.

Intertwined with anti-black racism in the Latino community is anti-black racism in ALL immigrant communities in the United States. It sometimes seems as though racism is handed out along with a visa. I used to represent a large number of African immigrants, primarily from Liberia and Sierra Leone. They uniformly bore incredibly strong animus toward African-Americans; indeed, they used the term "African-American" as an epithet, spitting out the syllables The head of a Liberian community association told me that he hoped his daughter would marry another first-generation African immigrant, but if not, he wanted her to marry a white guy or anyone but an "African-American." (Yes, the irony. Their kids, born in the US, were the epitome of "African-American," but they eschewed that label in favor of national ("Liberian") or tribal ("Kpelle") self-identity. The fact that Liberia was founded by "African-Americans" didn't deter the Liberians, either).





Whenever their children got in trouble, they blamed it on any African-American friends the kids happened to have.



This same visceral, old-school racism was also on flagrant display in the Russian, Korean, Chinese, Azerbaijani, and Iranian immigrant communities I worked with -- but the African immigrants were the worst, because they felt that their skin color gave them cover to be much more openly and overtly racist toward African-Americans.



Racism in the Latino community seems to me to just be part-and-parcel of the racism I encountered in all immigrant communities.

I work with a lot of Somalians and Ethiopians as well, and you have to understand that their distaste for African Americans isn't a racial thing but instead a cultural issue. People that move from Africa believe in marriage and family. They come here for a better life and seem to be achieving it for the most part. I see many opening businesses and getting educated. They view African Americans as a subversive group of troublemakers.

My experience was that they believed African-Americans to have had many more opportunities for success than they had in their native countries, and were therefore quick to dismiss any complaints about racism or oppression as unwarranted whining. On one level, they had a good point -- don't tell a guy who came here penniless and not speaking the language about how hard it has been for you to succeed in America. On the other hand, a lot of their derision and dismissiveness was borne out of ignorance of US history and culture. The Senegalese immigrant who hopes his son marries a white girl rather than an "African-American" truly doesn't understand that in the not-so-distant past, that could have been a death sentence for his son. The Liberian store owner who gets successful and moves into a wealthy, mostly white suburb doesn't understand that 50 years ago, he couldn't have bought that house.

 

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oh i guess if somebody from salon.com wrote an op-ed piece from one perspective, it must be true all accross the board.

there was an anti-black attitude in my family growing up for about 1 generation, the old people. my grandparents. my mother's been a social worker with black and latino families for 20 years and my dad went to junior high and high school in majority black schools, so no that doesnt apply to me or any of my friends. racial jokes, yes, just like blacks joke on whites and latinos, we joke on whites n blacks, but i can never honestly say i have ever felt like a person was beneath me because they were african american or anything else. so whatever breh continue with your hate campaign ill continue being my dominican harlemite self


EDIT: i read the article and now im reading the comments. here's a couple i found worth noting.

Dodging the issue again aren't we.

 

[beanz]

Dodging the issue again aren't we.

Man idk wtf u want to hear. Are there whitewashed Latinos? Yea. There's whitewashed blacks too. My issue is the generalizations. That's all I try to bring to these pointless discussions. Not every Latino or even half of Latinos are some c00ns who deny their Afro roots. I have met some sure, but when they open their mouths the other Latinos laugh at em. There are far more Latinos who acknowledge all of their roots than there are Latinos who deny them.

Generalizations and stereotypes are stupid and lazy and a dangerous game to play and I would expect a black man to understand that better than most.

 

[Arianne Martell]

There are three races,

Asians - Slanty eyes
blacks - Sheep hair
Whites - Everyone else

Native Americans = Asians/White hybrids

Eskimos = Asian/White hybrids

etc.etc.

Latina/Latino/Hispanic = NOT a race. Just a classification of the geographic in which one resides. You can be an Asian/black/White Hispanic. Depends on if you have the above traits.

But they don't hear you tho. It looks like these people have never filled out a self identification form. The U.S. race classification is as follows:

RACE/ETHNICITY:


(Please check one of the descriptions below corresponding to the ethnic group with which you identify.)


___ Hispanic or Latino: A person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race.


___ White (Not Hispanic or Latino): A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa.


___ Black or African American (Not Hispanic or Latino): A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.


___ Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (Not Hispanic or Latino): A person having origins in any of the peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa or other Pacific Islands.


___ Asian (Not Hispanic or Latino): A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia or the Indian Subcontinent, including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand and Vietnam.



___ American Indian or Alaska Native (Not Hispanic or Latino): A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America) and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment.



___ Two or more races (Not Hispanic or Latino): All persons who identify with more than one of the above five races.

- See more at: http://www.shrm.org/templatestools/...es/pages/cms_019910.aspx#sthash.plLI6HP9.dpuf

You can be Latino + Black; Latino + White; Latino + Asian; Latino + Arabic

this is so dumb...how old is the OP? This is basic knowledge.

 

[Swagnificent]

Its still one out of every 10 people.

not really. cause most black folks are concentrated in large urban areas thus you are more likely to run into black folks than the 12% number might suggest. ain't alot of tourists going to north dakota.

 

[kingdizzy01]

So heres the shyt that bugs me. So I live in New Mexico, fukking south side of my town is fukking little Tijuana. My mom lives out there and I did for like 10 years. 90% of everything out there is in Spanish and you dont speak Spanish and your brown skinned your fukking dumb as far as Mexicans out there are concerned. But check this, there claiming fukking Mexico right, but there fukking dipped out in American Eagle, Aeropostle, fukking white washed as day. Everything about them is. No fukking representation of being Mexican except the language.

If your brown and you dont speak English, its a wrap, but if you white they fukking give you a pass like its fukking nothing. Im not saying they need to be fukking cholo'd out but fukking shyt, talk about crabs in the bucket.

ur in fukkin new mexico. DEAL WITH IT

 

[DekalbTheDon]

Why do ya'll care? No one wants to be associated with black people, even black people. Get over it, we will be light enough to claim white soon enough the way alot of yall lust after anything but black.

 

[Gains]

I bet we have puerto ricans out there right now ticking that white box

 

[Heelish]

But how many afro-peruvians have u met?, chileans, nicaraguans, uruguayans? paraguayans? mexicans?

I'm Paraguayan, and the only Afro-Paraguayans I've seen were mixed kids here in the USA, 3 total, my child included every other one I've seen is mestizo or are straight white or Asian (lots of Euro/Asian immigrants there). Sad thing is the word "Indio" is commonly used as a slur even though most of the country is part Native and speak Guarani (the native language)