More San Francisco Tech Companies Cancel Leases Due to Remote Work

[Prince.Skeletor]

I’m down to put in more work if I can work from home.

 

[Wild self]

What's the excuse for not going back? People have been outside working for a year. There are treatments. Get your ass back to the office. It's a privilege that's been abused. The sense of entitlement that many have is past ridiculous.

Entitlements?

A pandemic that killed almost 600k people in ONE YEAR, and you expect people to move on, with no emotion?

WFH is a Godsend. It saves on the environment my less smog from cars and buses, saves $$$ by not using transportation of any kind, productivity is higher, and builds stronger families. Its the future, get used to it. @Rhakim

 

[bnew]

What's the excuse for not going back? People have been outside working for a year. There are treatments. Get your ass back to the office. It's a privilege that's been abused. The sense of entitlement that many have is past ridiculous.

those people outside working are the same ones driving new infections.

whats so difficult to understand about someone not wanting to contract the virus period?! contracting it could complicate and compromise their household.
You know whats better than a treatment? not needing it in the first place. No one knows the outcome of a specific person contracting the virus. we have educated guesses based on statistics, but no one KNOWS. If people have been getting their work done for a year while operating remotely, how are they abusing their employer? It seems to me employers are the ones feeling entitled to risking their employees health and the health of everyone they come into contact with.
It's a broken record at this point since we know what tends to happen, essential employee goes to work and contracts the virus, brings it home and spread it to members of their household. Same thing happened with kids spreading it to adults in their household who many had up until school re-openings managed to avoid contracting the virus.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

It's going to be on firms to force their employees back to work. I had a conversation with a coworker recently and she raised good points. People have been working essentially since last year, but you're "scared" to come to the office yet you've gotten on planes for travel, etc. Offices should be at 50% capacity minimum by the end of '21.

Why?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

What's the excuse for not going back? People have been outside working for a year. There are treatments. Get your ass back to the office. It's a privilege that's been abused. The sense of entitlement that many have is past ridiculous.

Its inefficient and unnecessary most of the time.

What's your beef with WFH? Privilege's abused? How?

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

It's going to be on firms to force their employees back to work. I had a conversation with a coworker recently and she raised good points. People have been working essentially since last year, but you're "scared" to come to the office yet you've gotten on planes for travel, etc. Offices should be at 50% capacity minimum by the end of '21.

Not wanting to go back to the office (full time) has nothing to do with covid concerns for most people. People want flexibility to WFH 2-3 days week.

and companies won’t force them back when they can down size real estate and office perks with more people working remotely. It’s a win win

 

[ColdSlither]

The idea here is that even though during normal work hours you might be very liberal with how much work you get done, you're less hesitant to tackle work "after work hours" because you either feel guilty about doing so little during the day or its much more convenient to focus on something that needs to be done after you've had dinner and chilled for the night. Those variable hours of work is where the productivity increases come in at.

I know a couple people who are early risers who knock out the vast majority of their work between 5-10AM, do pretty much nothing the remainder of the day other than meetings and answering some emails and then spend an hour before bed prepping for the next day. That's 5-6 hours of solid focus on work a day, something you don't get in the office.

Which is what I did when I was at the office anyway. I started at 7:30am, and by noon I was done. Unless I had meetings or something my boss needed me to do, I was bullshytting for the rest of the day.

 

[ColdSlither]

I believe that my office is going part time. Most of us will be going in one day a week. Granted this was all based on previous time table to go back to work. We were supposed to be back last month, and now it's I think July. But when I mentioned to my director that I was considering buying a home, she suggested getting something further away from NYC, and reiterated that since we'll only be coming in one day a week, moving further away might be a good option. And our CEO keeps saying that working remotely for our organization has been extremely successful. For my department, all of our staff travel on a regular basis anyway. A lot of them will be gone one to four weeks at a time. So once meetings are in person again it won't be a thing for them because they'll always be on the road. Plus my director lives in ATL. The CEO is in Texas. My boy lives in Denver and another in Orlando. We might as well move to a smaller office, and I can only imagine what the monthly rent is for Park Ave high rise space. Hell, let some of us who live in NJ just go to the NJ office on some days. The only downside is that the income of so many local businesses rely on these office workers. Many of these buildings will need to be turned into living space. To attract people to the city they should be things like shared living spaces for artists. Spaces for pop up shops/exhibits and other businesses.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Entitlements?

A pandemic that killed almost 600k people in ONE YEAR, and you expect people to move on, with no emotion?

WFH is a Godsend. It saves on the environment my less smog from cars and buses, saves $$$ by not using transportation of any kind, productivity is higher, and builds stronger families. Its the future, get used to it. @Rhakim

He's a conservative, he thinks anyone that draws a salary should be calling their boss massa and kiss his hand every day for even giving him a job.

There are probably certain downsides to WFH that will need to be worked through over time, but the benefits are obvious and there's no reason to arbitrarily rush everyone back.

 

[Rell Lauren]

Not wanting to go back to the office (full time) has nothing to do with covid concerns for most people. People want flexibility to WFH 2-3 days week.

and companies won’t force them back when they can down size real estate and office perks with more people working remotely. It’s a win win

WFH is wildly inefficient. I work in Wealth Management. You can only Zoom so much when we are moving in real-time. It's very difficult to keep people on task and accountable. I'm seeing this as an Associate. If I can see that at the ground level, then EDs, MDs and above can see it as well.

It's gotten so bad that last Summer, the entire firm has been tracked via our Virtual Desktop to monitor how much time we're spending online. We're far from the only ones spying on employees from home. They say productivity is up, but if people are working from 9 to 8, of course productivity is going to be up.

WFH is a privilege. It's not a right. That's a philosophy I'm not going to budge on.

 

[Wild self]

WFH is wildly inefficient. I work in Wealth Management. You can only Zoom so much when we are moving in real-time. It's very difficult to keep people on task and accountable. I'm seeing this as an Associate. If I can see that at the ground level, then EDs, MDs and above can see it as well.

It's gotten so bad that last Summer, the entire firm has been tracked via our Virtual Desktop to monitor how much time we're spending online. We're far from the only ones spying on employees from home. They say productivity is up, but if people are working from 9 to 8, of course productivity is going to be up.

WFH is a privilege. It's not a right. That's a philosophy I'm not going to budge on.

With your philosophy, we would not have running toilets and shytting in the backyards

WFH already having companies embracing this as the future. Stay in the 1950s with your micro-managing God like methods that will only run the best employees away. No one likes a boss that is a power hungry maniac.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

WFH is wildly inefficient. I work in Wealth Management. You can only Zoom so much when we are moving in real-time. It's very difficult to keep people on task and accountable. I'm seeing this as an Associate. If I can see that at the ground level, then EDs, MDs and above can see it as well.

It's gotten so bad that last Summer, the entire firm has been tracked via our Virtual Desktop to monitor how much time we're spending online. We're far from the only ones spying on employees from home. They say productivity is up, but if people are working from 9 to 8, of course productivity is going to be up.

WFH is a privilege. It's not a right. That's a philosophy I'm not going to budge on.

You’re in a line of work that might benefit from being in the office. A lot of people aren’t

I work in tech and flexibility was a thing way before covid and people get their shyt done and are accountable

Lastly no one said it was a right, but employers who used to be hardcore about five days in the office for nothing other than outdated thoughts about facetime and productivity have been proven wrong. There’s absolutely no reason to not allow a WFH day

 

[the cac mamba]

WFH is wildly inefficient. I work in Wealth Management. You can only Zoom so much when we are moving in real-time. It's very difficult to keep people on task and accountable. I'm seeing this as an Associate. If I can see that at the ground level, then EDs, MDs and above can see it as well.

It's gotten so bad that last Summer, the entire firm has been tracked via our Virtual Desktop to monitor how much time we're spending online. We're far from the only ones spying on employees from home. They say productivity is up, but if people are working from 9 to 8, of course productivity is going to be up.

WFH is a privilege. It's not a right. That's a philosophy I'm not going to budge on.

you really think the accountants at your company arent cruching the numbers right now on how much they'd save if they sold the office space? our biggest customer just sold like 80 percent of their offices and are sending all their workers home for good

i hear you on the drawbacks, im far less professional at home. but this covid shyt forced in a conversation that needed to be had and benefits everyone. no one who sits in front of a computer needs to drive to an office to do it; that's not really debatable right now

 

[Sad Bunny]

I would definitely not say that having people WFH = more productivity, in fact I'd say the exact opposite.

Brick and mortar isn't necessary in many industries. This doesn't surprise me whatsoever.

I disagree I work for a big firm and it has increased productivity especially for my team because the more we do to prove we don't need to be in the office the better off we are but we still get down time.

I do not miss sleeping in our talking to random people and making small talk that could just be an email or an instant message communication via Microsoft Lync.

It truly depends on the job function and my job for sure does not need an office presence

 

[mr. smoke weed]

I disagree I work for a big firm and it has increased productivity especially for my team because the more we do to prove we don't need to be in the office the better off we are but we still get down time.

I do not miss sleeping in our talking to random people and making small talk that could just be an email or an instant message communication via Microsoft Lync.

It truly depends on the job function and my job for sure does not need an office presence

Yea my girl feels the same way.