GetInTheTruck
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Well you don't gotta try to convince me. Go tell one of the mother's of those murder victims it's all a hoax, see how that works out for you.
More than 60 ppl shot in Chicago over July 4th weekend
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Well you don't gotta try to convince me. Go tell one of the mother's of those murder victims it's all a hoax, see how that works out for you.
And like I always say, I was born and raised in the hood just like these nikkas. IDC what "condition" you're living in, you always have choices. Yes poverty plays a part but the majority of people in the hood can get out and do something with themselves. There is no excuses. If you want a better life then you'll find ways to achieve just that. MANY of the people I grew up with are doing the same thing they've been doing for 20 years... NOTHING. I'm not better than any of them but I made the better choice. Life is all on you, no excuses
No it's a bad message in the first place.
The existence of criminals does not mean "we" are doing anything.
It's that type of message they gets all black people thrown in that same box. It's that box we are already in that makes you make a statement like that without considering the consequences of such statements.
As a society when it comes to talking about fixing society, you have to talk about the system as that's the only thing we can change as a whole. There is no way to address individuals criminal actions other than enforcing laws which is already being done.
Conditions need to be addressed for there to be a change. And you have to talk about whats creating those conditions in order to have that conversation.
mcdivit85
Superstar
They're in the midst of a real life Purge...with the government providing the guns and ammunition. Some people get it, some people don't. That includes some who are victims including family members.
The situation is no hoax...it's very real. I'm just saying I don't believe it's all black people killing black people. I don't believe black people are savages...sue me.
Why are so many black people committed to continuing this narrative though? That's what intrigues me
Peace
Yep. I couldnt tell the difference between the fireworks and gunshots
1% black
Everybody is not special like you.
As a society we shouldn't be creating conditions where some people have to be special to make it, while others can be totally unremarkable and still end up better off than the special people of a certain demographic.
That's called systemic inequality. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with attempting to change that.
mcdivit85
Superstar
That's a cool story, bro. But anecdotal experiences of triumph do not help an entire people. No more than a few black athletes and entertainers "making it" help the entire black population.
You seem to believe that any person born into abject poverty with little or no access to resources has the same opportunity to "make something of themselves" as someone who grew up with resources. Surely you jest. One needs bootstraps to pull themselves up by first. Sure, a few may find miraculous means without them, but no people can be judged by the few.
If a class has 40 students and only 5 can read at grade level. That is not a success no matter how well those five perform. It's funny how some black people, like you, push this narrative for the black masses. One can only assume that those "black people" have an agenda.
Peace
To me it's called EXCUSES. Ain't nothing special except for the choices I made. You know, the logical choices? Basic right from wrong type shyt? Breh, I respect your opinion but as you can see there are so many other people that have the same mentality as you, but it gets us absolutely nowhere as a people. Instead of nikkas being so complacent with the way things are, how things are done differently???
mcdivit85
Superstar
The things you're saying though are again just excuses. 5 out of 40 can read, but guess what? If 35 of those parents woulda sat down and helped those kids, that situation wouldn't happen. So then you go back to the parents. EXCUSE AFTER EXCUSE for multiple generations so of course this type of shyt is happening
Right! So why did everybody give up on it? We have rights now so why the fukk are we so complacent? WE HAVE NOTHING, still, and we as a people could give a fukk less. You can say that's not true but a good amount of our people's actions prove otherwise
mcdivit85
Superstar
So, all 35 of those kids come from homes where the parents don't try to help their kids with school work? All 35 are hapless?
No context given for the poverty they grew up in where there were no books in the home. No libraries worth a damn in their communities. No computer for research. School filled with middle class, white teachers who care nothing for the students because they share no cultural connection and don't live in their communities. School has old books, which they don't have enough of. And not enough funding for reading specialists, so any kid that can't keep up is given an IED and labeled "Special Ed."
Oh, and let's forget the fact that the five kids that are at and beyond grade level are probably gifted, which is why they were able to stay afloat despite these circumstances. But again, they're school is so wayward and underfunded that their intelligence can't even be properly developed because there's no funding for AP and/or gifted programs.
But Todd, whose of average intelligence, can read and write at grade level. In fact, because he grew up in an upwardly mobile environment, his home has many books and several computers. His mother and father, who work in middle class occupations, naturally inculcate a wide vocabulary. Not because they intentionally sit down and do this with him, but because it's part of their lifestyle.
If Todd were living in poverty in Southside Chicago, he'd probably be labeled Special Ed because his environment wouldn't have the resources to prepare him nor would his school have the resources to properly educate him at grade level without him having above average intelligence to wane off the tremendous obstacles surrounding him.
But yea, those are just excuses
Peace
Nobody gave up on it. There are people still people out fighting right now. For some reason you'd like to ridicule them as making excuses.
Rights and opportunity are not passed out equally in this country.
Seems you only know black people from what you read in these stories. Which is what @mcdivit85 was getting at. These stories have become a way to disparage black people as a whole and are not a call for a solution
In reality black people are better off in every demonstrable metric now than we were in the past and we are continually making more progress despite the abject inequality we face.
As bad as crime is in Chicago today, it's still at a low level historically, while black achievement is at its pinnacle.
Again if you want to address an issue, all of the facts must be put in proper context otherwise you are just blowing hot air
