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I think some just underestimate how many people simply just don't give a shyt about going online to be in the know how. They'll know when it's literally thrown in their face, like when E3 comes along, or when they start seeing it on social media or in the papers and shyt, or hearing it from a friend.

My brother who loves Xbox never even knew the Scorpio brought out those specs till I told him about it. "Oh I didn't know there was a scorpio reveal" "Nice, just watched, looks good so far". People don't give a shyt about game line ups, they want it because it's the next system from the company.
 

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https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/10/1...-nielsen-study



Nielsen Games’s annual Games 360 Report is a comprehensive breakdown of consumer habits in the US gaming market. It tracks everything from the shifts between console, mobile, and PC popularity to the rise and growth of new technologies and trends like VR and e-sports. It also does deep dives into just how much both the average American and the average gamer knows about the industry and where they might spend money. The survey collects data using 2,000 interviews with a 50-50 male-female split, and the raw survey data is then weighted using US Census information to extrapolate the insights to the general population.

For Microsoft’s Project Scorpio and Sony’s already-released PS4 Pro, the numbers are neither all that stellar nor all that surprising. According to the study, just 14 percent of gamers over the age of 13 have ever even heard of Project Scorpio, while just 27 percent have heard of the PS4 Pro. (The figures are far less for the general population.) When it comes to purchasing those devices, just 15 percent of gamers said they’re interested in buying Sony’s new console, while just 13 percent said Project Scorpio is on their prospective buy list.


So Microsoft and Sony clearly think it’s worth targeting those console users with Scorpio and the PS4 Pro, even if they won’t sell tens of millions of units. There is the possibility of a chicken-and-egg problem on our hands. It won’t matter how polished the new console hardware is if game developers don’t feel its worth extensive optimization, and consumers won’t want to buy the hardware unless there’s a slate of games that take advantage of the full suit of performance boosts.

This means that, even with a new PS4 on the market and a new Xbox just one month from its global unveiling, Microsoft and Sony may be wading into a market not that many consumers are interested in. Sure, there will always be the hardcore fans — those interested in the best graphics and performance — who want the latest gear. But those consumers have typically found shelter in the PC space, where modular upgrade systems allow for constant part swapping, and where consoles are seen as the poor relations.

But perhaps that’s the whole point. Microsoft and Sony may be fine with selling lower numbers of these “pro” devices, and more of the standard systems, if it can nurture an enthusiast market in the console space like the one that exists currently on the PC. In an deal world, both Microsoft and Sony are able support players across the entire platform regardless of the power of their hardware. But the potential downside is that these aggressive refresh cycles risk splitting the console market into the haves and have nots — and developers seem more wary of that than anything else.
i been saying this for YEARS on the coli and sohh

the general public does not know, and definitely does not care, about 95% of the shyt we talk about in ANY forum


the coliseum.. you think the common man knows how many HOF players jordan, lebron or kobe faced?? do you think they even give two fukks... they just watching the games (if that) and some espn

the booth.. you think the common man knows hush is writing songs for drake.. or nicki and nas took a pic on IG.. or what albums came out when and what is considered classic? shyt they still discovering how to work pandora past the hip hop channel

the film room... yo think the common man knows about movies coming out next year.. watching unreleased teasers.. knowing who is going to direct what, what the release schedule is, and looking out for some easter egg.. they can't even name the avengers in the movie, let alone from the comics

JBO... lets not even go there.. nikkas know porn stars by their feet and ass and keep a thread going of what porn stars are doing in 2017, when they ain't had a movie since 1988

the wrestling forum... yea fukking right... most fans are damn little kids and the adults definitely.............. well the adults might be the most aligned group with the public.. cause if you watching wrestling at over 16, you a nerd




but dammit THIS forum... we've seen it all..


remember the DD wars... i mean we were supposed to be all digital at least 7 years ago... b-b-b-b-but the public catching up... yea... maybe in ANOTHER 10 years... they couldn't even handle a system being dropped that asked you to connect to internet once in 24 hours

4k?? i go to bytches houses and they got HDTV's hooked up with the channel on SD... that's IF they even have the cable channel for HD... then i'll fix it and they'll get mad... b-b-b-b-b-but i don't like it like this... b-b-b-b-b-but i don't see the difference


if y'all really thought that the hundred million install base deep worth of console users, was really going nuts over 4k and 60 fps... i got an ps 5 to sell you

nobody cares about that shyt but US nerds... yea if you on an internet forum talking about this shyt on a daily basis, you a fukking nerd too nikka.. me included.. you couldn't name 10 friends on the coli or any other forum doing this shyt.. i bet when you go to most people house, you the one dropping all the info, they have no idea about it, and at the end of the convo, you can tell they ain't about to buy that shyt anyway

which is why most games sold and talked about is the same old madden, 2k, gta, multiplat nonsense.. it's why these companies won't take any risks on gaming.. and why nobody cares about the scorpio or ps4 pro


now off to my other 5 forums to check the latest underground news :dame:
 

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Consoles will never be able to compete with the PC. Almost every game that I love thats on Xbox or PS is on PC, so their is no necessary projection for me to own those consoles. Even though I do own a PS4. Nintendo basically said fukk it, we gonna go in another direction and let them try to compete with the PC in a spec gimmick war.

Most financial analyist that I read have already predicted mediocre sales for the Scorpio, with the Switch becoming the #2 console. So not surprised by this at all...
 

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What about PS4 sales tells you its struggling for relevance?
That dude stay downplaying anything remotely positive that Sony is doing. Dude stay making broad statements which are alternative facts that hardly have anything to do with the original point.

At that time, the console will have spent four years in the market and is following a better selling trend than PS2. As we learn from the next tweet, sales of PS4 will surpass those of PS2 that sold 71 million units after 48 months in the market and ended up selling 150 million after 11 years. We don’t know if it will hold for that many years because we are in a reality where new products are launched everyday but the first four years are paying off notably.

It's like damn son do you even read?? :mindblown:

You mean Xbox is struggling for relevancy. How the fukk is something that's selling on pace with the PS2 almost 4 years later struggling for relevancy?

You bring that up and he goes off on a tangent about HARDWARE changes and stuff which has nothing to do with his original statement of the console struggling for relevancy. Then you got this genius conflating Windows 10 INSTALL'S with Windows 10 STORE usage as if it's supposed to mean Steam users are suddenly going to abandon Steam because there's this crappy alternative that has hardly any positives for a PC gamer. it's painful reading some of this guys post where he posts with so much arrogance and condescension when he's usually off the mark.
 
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i been saying this for YEARS on the coli and sohh

the general public does not know, and definitely does not care, about 95% of the shyt we talk about in ANY forum


the coliseum.. you think the common man knows how many HOF players jordan, lebron or kobe faced?? do you think they even give two fukks... they just watching the games (if that) and some espn

the booth.. you think the common man knows hush is writing songs for drake.. or nicki and nas took a pic on IG.. or what albums came out when and what is considered classic? shyt they still discovering how to work pandora past the hip hop channel

the film room... yo think the common man knows about movies coming out next year.. watching unreleased teasers.. knowing who is going to direct what, what the release schedule is, and looking out for some easter egg.. they can't even name the avengers in the movie, let alone from the comics

JBO... lets not even go there.. nikkas know porn stars by their feet and ass and keep a thread going of what porn stars are doing in 2017, when they ain't had a movie since 1988

the wrestling forum... yea fukking right... most fans are damn little kids and the adults definitely.............. well the adults might be the most aligned group with the public.. cause if you watching wrestling at over 16, you a nerd




but dammit THIS forum... we've seen it all..


remember the DD wars... i mean we were supposed to be all digital at least 7 years ago... b-b-b-b-but the public catching up... yea... maybe in ANOTHER 10 years... they couldn't even handle a system being dropped that asked you to connect to internet once in 24 hours

4k?? i go to bytches houses and they got HDTV's hooked up with the channel on SD... that's IF they even have the cable channel for HD... then i'll fix it and they'll get mad... b-b-b-b-b-but i don't like it like this... b-b-b-b-b-but i don't see the difference


if y'all really thought that the hundred million install base deep worth of console users, was really going nuts over 4k and 60 fps... i got an ps 5 to sell you

nobody cares about that shyt but US nerds... yea if you on an internet forum talking about this shyt on a daily basis, you a fukking nerd too nikka.. me included.. you couldn't name 10 friends on the coli or any other forum doing this shyt.. i bet when you go to most people house, you the one dropping all the info, they have no idea about it, and at the end of the convo, you can tell they ain't about to buy that shyt anyway

which is why most games sold and talked about is the same old madden, 2k, gta, multiplat nonsense.. it's why these companies won't take any risks on gaming.. and why nobody cares about the scorpio or ps4 pro


now off to my other 5 forums to check the latest underground news :dame:
These guys live in a bubble. They think because they talk with a lot of people that care about something like this then that means it's representative of the entire market.

MOST PEOPLE WHO OWN A REG PS4/XBOX 1 DON'T CARE OR DO NOT ACTUALLY PLAN ON UPGRADING.

Stop acting like it's 70% or hell even 50% of the install base that actually cares. shyt I'd say probably less 5% of owners will actually frigging upgrade.

Talking =/= actually buying.
 

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These guys live in a bubble. They think because they talk with a lot of people that care about something like this then that means it's representative of the entire market.

MOST PEOPLE WHO OWN A REG PS4/XBOX 1 DON'T CARE OR DO NOT ACTUALLY PLAN ON UPGRADING.

Stop acting like it's 70% or hell even 50% of the install base that actually cares. shyt I'd say probably less 5% of owners will actually frigging upgrade.

Talking =/= actually buying.

Cold truth.

Pro vs OG/Slim sales in the states was like a 1:7 ratio in December. And that's with a 399 price tag. In Japan it was like 1:10. And that's with it basically being in the debut/holiday season.

You got Scorpio dropping and all of a sudden, it will sell more than all the other consoles on the market with a premium price. :mjlol: shyt gonna be even more niche than the Pro is.
 

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Cold truth.

Pro vs OG/Slim sales in the states was like a 1:7 ratio in December. And that's with a 399 price tag. In Japan it was like 1:10. And that's with it basically being in the debut/holiday season.

You got Scorpio dropping and all of a sudden, it will sell more than all the other consoles on the market with a premium price. :mjlol: shyt gonna be even more niche than the Pro is.
Like sure if it's feasible to build a premium device a few years later when parts are cheaper go ahead but some of these guys advocating top of the line equipment to be sold at a loss for what? 4% of a install base?? that's just not a good move.
 

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bruh why has everyone responded to my shyt but nobody can list the fire games I supposedly missed :jbhmm:
Street fighter 5, blood borne and uc4 have been in my playlist lately. 3 great games that are already old-ish. Haven't gotten started with Horizon ..and the last guardian looks pretty nice :ehh:
 
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