Mother wants teacher removed for telling black son he might be lynched for not focusing

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An Ohio woman is demanding her African-American son's white middle school teacher be removed from the classroom after officials said the educator admitted telling him his classmates might "lynch" him if he didn't focus on his studies.

Tanisha Agee-Bell, 43, told ABC News on Thursday that the incident occurred at Mason School in a suburb of Cincinnati the first week of December.

"I want her removed from the classroom until she can get the proper training," said Agee-Bell.

She said that about a week after the incident, her son Nathan, 13, told her about the confrontation that occurred in front of his classmates.

School officials said the teacher, Renee Thole, who has been employed at the school since 2004, admitted making the racially insensitive comment to Nathan.

"I would say, yes the teacher did confirm she said that," Tracey Carson, a spokeswoman for the Mason School District, told ABC News. "She immediately recognized she had done something wrong."

Carson said there are no plans to remove Thole from the classroom, but a letter of reprimand has been placed in her personnel file.

"You shared that you realized that you cannot take that moment back but can only strive to make it a teachable moment for you and the students with your actions," reads the letter of reprimand, which the school district released to ABC News. The letter goes on to read, "Be advised that future instances of problems in the areas we have discussed may warrant further disciplinary action to be taken against you that may lead to termination of your employment."

Thole could not be reached for comment.

Agee-Bell, a member of the school district's diversity committee, said Nathan waited about a week before telling her what occurred. She said as soon as she heard, she emailed Thole and later spoke to the teacher on the phone, demanding she apologize to her son in front of his class. She said she wasn't convinced that Thole, who is in her 30s, fully understands how offensive her comments were.

"I told her, 'The fact that you’re a social studies teacher and you don’t understand the racial implications of what you said to my son baffles me,'" Agee-Bell said.

She said Thole told her that she made the comment to Nathan out of frustration that he wasn't focused on his schoolwork.

"I told her, 'Next time you're frustrated are you going to call him a n-----?'" Agee-Bell said.

Nathan told his mother that Thole did apologize to him in front of his classmates, saying, she was "'sorry you were offended by what I said,'" but nothing further.

Agee-Bell said she won't let the issue rest until the school district does more to discipline Thole other than giving her a letter of reprimand. She said she has gotten her son removed from Thole's classroom.

Gail Kist-Kline, superintendent of Mason City Schools, issued a letter to parents on Thursday addressing the issue.

"We have seen an uptick in the number of racially and culturally insensitive comments in our schools and community. Sometimes these are said out of genuine ignorance," Kist-Kline wrote.

"As a district, we want to be very clear, racial slurs or any behavior that discriminates against others are NOT acceptable. When adults act in a way that is not in line with our values, we lose trust. In our district, we take corrective action to address these situations, but we need to do more."

Mother wants teacher removed for telling black son he might be lynched for not focusing
 

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When unions go too far...

Wasn't there a thread asking how anyone could hate unions?:sas2:

Is this the same teachers units who had a staff member arrested because they spoke out against the superintendent's proposed raise despite concerns of their own?


Are we now making knee jerk reactions?

Are we assuming this teacher would have been fired without a union despite countless stories showing otherwise?

I'm intrigued by this spin.
 

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Is this the same teachers units who had a staff member arrested because they spoke out against the superintendent's proposed raise despite concerns of their own?


Are we now making knee jerk reactions?

Are we assuming this teacher would have been fired without a union despite countless stories showing otherwise?

I'm intrigued by this spin.
1. Regarding Deyshia Hargrave, the union did not have here arrested. In fact, they are working with the ACLU to investigate the incident on her behalf.
Arrested Louisiana teacher says lawsuit seems likely: 'My First Amendment rights were violated'
According to school board member Kibbie Pillette, Fontana then beckoned off-camera to the officer, who interrupted Hargrave while she was speaking and ordered her out.
Fontana is the School Board President...not a Union member or a Union representative, or in any way acting on behalf of the union.
The American Civil Liberties Union and her teachers union are investigating the case.

So, no, not the same teachers union. Not even close.

2. Yes, I am making that assumption based on:
"I would say, yes the teacher did confirm she said that," Tracey Carson, a spokeswoman for the Mason School District, told ABC News. "She immediately recognized she had done something wrong."

Carson said there are no plans to remove Thole from the classroom, but a letter of reprimand has been placed in her personnel file.

"You shared that you realized that you cannot take that moment back but can only strive to make it a teachable moment for you and the students with your actions," reads the letter of reprimand, which the school district released to ABC News. The letter goes on to read, "Be advised that future instances of problems in the areas we have discussed may warrant further disciplinary action to be taken against you that may lead to termination of your employment."

The final passage from the letter is following union procedures regarding disciplinary action. This teacher has not been formally warned against the action in question, and since it is in not specifically stated in her contract that that action warranted firing, the union requires that she gets a warning. I assure you that the last thing the administration handling this wants to be doing is facing national notoriety that could have been otherwise easily avoided by simply firing and replacing this teacher.

You vaguely reference "countless stories showing otherwise". I'd be interested to hear them if you care to share.
 

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I was speaking out in favor of unions in another thread, and actually debating your "usual suspect".
You know, it's possible to be "pro-union" and still acknowledge that unions can be wrong at times. You don't have to be blindly partisan on every issue. You are allowed to be a Democrat, and still think for yourself.
 

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1. Regarding Deyshia Hargrave, the union did not have here arrested. In fact, they are working with the ACLU to investigate the incident on her behalf.
Arrested Louisiana teacher says lawsuit seems likely: 'My First Amendment rights were violated'

same town name, different state. my bad.

The final passage from the letter is following union procedures regarding disciplinary action. This teacher has not been formally warned against the action in question, and since it is in not specifically stated in her contract that that action warranted firing, the union requires that she gets a warning. I assure you that the last thing the administration handling this wants to be doing is facing national notoriety that could have been otherwise easily avoided by simply firing and replacing this teacher.

For perspective:

Ohio teacher loses job for racist comment



You vaguely reference "countless stories showing otherwise". I'd be interested to hear them if you care to share.

A simple search will suffice:

teacher makes racist remarks towards student - Bing
 

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Nathan told his mother that Thole did apologize to him in front of his classmates, saying, she was "'sorry you were offended by what I said,'"

teacher think she slick with that passive aggressive non-apology. that 'sorry you felt bad, but not sorry for what i said' bs. if that was my kid i would have told her be careful what you say to students or concerned tax payers might lynch you.

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same town name, different state. my bad.



For perspective:

Ohio teacher loses job for racist comment





A simple search will suffice:

teacher makes racist remarks towards student - Bing
Regarding your first link:
A previous review of Voigt's personnel file showed that in 2008 he was accused of calling a student an "African-American Rudolph" while aiming a laser pointer at the pupil, in 2013 he received a verbal warning after being accused of calling one student "stupid" and others "gay," and in December he was warned for failing to use the adopted curriculum.
Do you think these offenses were worthy of being fired?....because he wasn't. A warning was placed in his file. If his file was clean, he wouldn't have been fired this time.

The second link in the bing search:
In the video, which has been viewed more than 2 million times since it was posted by a parent on Facebook Wednesday, the teacher is seen dragging a male student by the hood out of a classroom before proceeding to hurl insults at the rest of the class.

“You’re idiots!” the teacher, who is white, is heard shouting at the room full of mostly black middle schoolers at Harlem Park Elementary/Middle School in West Baltimore. “You have the chance to get an education, but you want to be a punk-a** n***** who’s gonna get shot.”" data-reactid="17" style="margin-bottom: 1em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">“You’re idiots!” the teacher, who is white, is heard shouting at the room full of mostly black middle schoolers at Harlem Park Elementary/Middle School in West Baltimore. “You have the chance to get an education, but you want to be a punk-a** n***** who’s gonna get shot.”
Physical contact is written into the contract, and can result in termination. Minus that, I'm fairly certain this teacher would have only gotten a written warning.

Next link:
Bob Grisham, a teacher and head football coach at Lauderdale County High School in Alabama, is under investigation after a student audiotaped him making anti-gay, racist remarks in class:

There's a tape. I listened to it. Why are they investigating?


The reason this teacher hasn't been fired is because of the union. That is fact.
Whether you think that is a good thing or bad thing is up to you to decide.
 
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Nathan told his mother that Thole did apologize to him in front of his classmates, saying, she was "'sorry you were offended by what I said,'" but nothing further.

And she wonders why this kid isn't paying attention in her class? TF? :scust:
 
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