MS Responds To Xbox One Criticism

[Malta]

But thats the thing tho. Let's say its a 60/40 split in favor of the PS4 for the first year. I think the split is close enough at that point that they have to develop on the XBONE first because its easier to work UP than to scale back down.

The only experience I have dealing with shyt like this is for Android/iOS apps and not video games though. An 80/20 split would probably push the main focus to the PS4 then screw over the XBOX One owners. I think anything close to 50/50 favors the lowest spec console

It'll be easier for them to use the PS4 for the lead then scale down features for the One, get it running smoothly on the PS4 and go from there. They don't work up, if they did the 3rd party PS3 games would have looked better, we all saw what the PS3 is capable of when pushed to it's limit. It was technically more powerful than the 360, but had bottlenecks that no 3rd party developer was going to take the time out to work around.

Yep, and that's where their more powerful thinking comes from. They feel they have an advantage with it (even though there was basically nothing games wise for it at the presser).

Of course it's bs but we'll see if people fall for it

The internet seems to be siding with the PS4, and the net voice is pretty loud compared to 2006.

 

[Rekkapryde]

See with all this miss info out there. The Ps4 is not 50% more powerful than the X1. At most its gpu has 30% more power but adding all the other factors its not going to that noticeable for the vast majority of games.

Specs are leaked bruh. And if MS don't get those ESRAM yields in order, they will be extremely limited in supply for the fall or worse have to reduce the GPU clock speed which is already weaker than the PS4.

Add in the PS4 ram superiority.....

just don't look good bruh....

 

[Smooth3d]

Specs are leaked bruh. And if MS don't get those ESRAM yields in order, they will be extremely limited in supply for the fall or worse have to reduce the GPU clock speed which is already weaker than the PS4.

Add in the PS4 ram superiority.....

just don't look good bruh....

The X1 specs are locked in. They will rather a shortage of consoles until yields are straiton out. The Ps4 ram is not as big of a advantage as you think.

 

[Malta]

See with all this miss info out there. The Ps4 is not 50% more powerful than the X1. At most its gpu has 30% more power but adding all the other factors its not going to that noticeable for the vast majority of games.

Word? So you know more than Digital Foundry?

In terms of the GPU hardware, hard information was difficult to come by, but one of the engineers did let slip with a significant stat - 768 operations per clock. We know that both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 are based on Radeon GCN architecture and we also know that each compute unit is capable of 64 operations per clock. So, again through a process of extrapolation from the drip-feed of hard facts, the make-up of the One's GPU is confirmed - 12 compute units each capable of 64 ops/clock gives us the 768 total revealed by Microsoft and thus, by extension, the 1.2 teraflop graphics core. So that's another tick on the Durango leaked spec that has been transposed across to the final Xbox One architecture and the proof we need that PlayStation 4's 18 CU graphics core has 50 per cent more raw power than the GPU in the new Microsoft console. Now, bearing in mind that we fully expect PlayStation 4 and Xbox One to launch at similar price-points, how did this disparity come about?

:Thisnikka:

 

[Malta]

The X1 specs are locked in. They will rather a shortage of consoles until yields are straiton out. The Ps4 ram is not as big of a advantage as you think.

GPU combined with faster ram will make for a noticeable difference in multiplat games, and a huge difference when the 2nd generation first party Sony games start rolling out.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

The X1 specs are locked in. They will rather a shortage of consoles until yields are straiton out. The Ps4 ram is not as big of a advantage as you think.

there's nothing about the xb1 specs that're >the ps4's


mate, just....

 

[Smooth3d]

Word? So you know more than Digital Foundry?



:Thisnikka:

So you pulled one article to support your claim? lol It has been widely reported the gpu in X1 is 1.2 tflp and the gpu in PS4 is 1.8 tflp aka 30%. And not taking in account anything else on both systems. If anything the gpu on both consoles is not the bottleneck. Its the slow in comparison to mainstream cpu's in these consoles.

 

[quanb24]

what about military ppl?

 

[Rico]

Xbox is more innovative but ps4 is more powerful. Whoever wins it will probably be a setback for consumers.

 

[Smooth3d]

there's nothing about the xb1 specs that're >the ps4's


mate, just....

Man comprehension is sorely lacking on this forum! Who said that? nikkas making shyt up now.

 

[Rain]

what about military ppl?

Get a 360

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Man comprehension is sorely lacking on this forum! Who said that? nikkas making shyt up now.

mate I think you need to take heed of your own post


I never said you said that. You've been saying repeatedly that you don't think the gap in tech makes much of a difference, my post is basically stating that I believe it will.


If there were one or two aspects about the xb1 specs that were better than the ps4 i'd say you'd have a point but when there is nothing about it that could close in that gap in spec i'd say its more likely that a noticeable difference in performance will become apparent down the line

 

[Malta]

So you pulled one article to support your claim? lol It has been widely reported the gpu in X1 is 1.2 tflp and the gpu in PS4 is 1.8 tflp aka 30%. And not taking in account anything else on both systems. If anything the gpu on both consoles is not the bottleneck. Its the slow in comparison to mainstream cpu's in these consoles.

Your understanding of percentages needs work

And yes, I pulled an article to back up my claim, by people who specialize in hardware.

 

[RammerJammer]

My first Playstation since PS2

 

[gho3st]

Forget all the DRM and used game stuff, why should I pay $100 more for a less powerful system? The gap between them is only going to get more apparent when Naughty Dog & Santa Monica starts cranking out games. I may get a One, but it damn sure won't be before I get a PS4.

The performance edge is pretty substantial.

the 100 dollars is for the cloud's potential lets not forget about the Xbox Live fee too