Multi Part Impeachment Plan Against Trump

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Timewasting and theatrics. He aint going nowhere.

why do people like you hate when others try to put trump and co on the record so theres no hearsay claims or unsubstantiated reports later on?
 

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This is why the lesser of two evils is never a good choice and is never a long term solution.
Because it's not like Democrats have a populist or pro-working class foundation to stand on.
Even if you can argue yes but they aren't as bad as..... Yes but it's not enough for conservatives.

Bernie Sanders is actually the proper prototype, because he is a populist, not bought and barely ever touches the trans issues and pink colored hair type topics.
It's always policy for him, that should be considered the ideal prototype.
 

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I don't know if you are watching it, but Al Green is standing and he is literally mentioning bypassing due process for Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

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The articles of impeachment are encompassing literally his entire presidency. Tariffs? Congress job. Dismantling agencies and firing folk? Illegal.

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You are speaking about one narrow part of what Democrats are hammering him on but the entire time, Trump has been sued for illegal actions left and right.
They absolutely have a case right now, and for the "What are Democrats doing" folks, they are doing their jobs. Al Green is making a broader case than tariffs. It's not symbolic, its literally his duty to check Trumps power. Whether or not he is able to affect change by himself doing this is not the point. He is doing his job as all Congressmen should.


Just before I posted this, he is literally talking about Trump defying federal courts. Again, criticizing this action is wrong. He is literally doing his job. Building the case is one part of the process.

Edit: Lastly, they didn't "Fail" to convict, Republicans literally obstructed. The case was set both times and McConnell was there to nix it.

Here is the thing, all or that is convincing to you because you already agree with the Democratic side. They need Republicans to pull this off, and the Republicans will only care about their bottomline. They have not cared all the other times Trump has done something that is against regulations, the Law, etc. They want what he wants for the most part, or at least their constituents do. So, to turn the clown car around, they have to show them in no uncertain economic terms what the outcome of their actions will have on the economy.

Outside of actual conviction, it all ends up being symbolism. The only true path to conviction is bringing some from his side on to the Democratic side. The only way to do that, is to make it about money.
 

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Here is the thing, all or that is convincing to you because you already agree with the Democratic side. They need Republicans to pull this off, and the Republicans will only care about their bottomline. They have not cared all the other times Trump has done something that is against regulations, the Law, etc. They want what he wants for the most part, or at least their constituents do. So, to turn the clown car around, they have to show them in no uncertain economic terms what the outcome of their actions will have on the economy.

Outside of actual conviction, it all ends up being symbolism. The only true path to conviction is bringing some from his side on to the Democratic side. The only way to do that, is to make it about money.
Breh, I agree with all of that, but symbolism is not the right way to put it. It is literally his job to make sure to check the President. Same for all of Congress. His speech in theory could move a few more people to vote to impeach. In August, a bunch of people might look back and be like "You know what, Al was right." when shyt hits the fan. As a congressman, he like everyone else tries to put things on record for numerous reasons, the current being the rebuke of flagrant constitutional abuses.

Now whether you as a citizen care about it is one thing, but unless politics really isn't your thing, you have no doubt heard people on the fence, or on the left asking "What are the Democrats doing!" Within congress and outside of congress, they are building the case for colleagues and constituents. So while Republicans are complicit, we and Al's constituency KNOWS he is not. How often do we get 11 Dems in the Senate to vote with Republicans and the headlines are "DEMOCRATS VOTE FOR XXX." They all get put into a bucket. The American people want to know who is actually against him and for whom to listen to and support. It's not all symbolism if we literally have people searching for any sign of resistance. This is one aspect of many, and aiming only for the sure thing looks like nothing is being done in the meantime which deflates supporters.
 

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The world needs Trump in the Whitehouse..

He has made them more money by unshackling them from long term unfair deals with the US signed decades ago and finding new markets.
The only people getting molested by Trump are in the US.
 
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This is waste of time. Democrats are idiots.

IMPEACHMENT MEANS NOTHING. THE PUBLIC DON'T CARE.
 

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Impeached last time but NEVER REMOVED.... :beli: so what you gonna do impeach him AGAIN but never touch him...USELESS performative bullshyt...
 

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:mjlol:The irony of how this thread seems like Nothing Burger if the Impeachment ends up successful and they finally cast the demonic orange penis buffer to the lake of fire.

Would shock everyone, including the prophetic marsupial that didn't see the shyt a mile away.
 

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They tried twice, including after January 6th. The only way Mango Mussolini is leaving office before January 20th, 2029 is either he dies in office due to health issues or he's assassinated. :francis:
aye breh, Big Macs ain’t getting any healthier :yeshrug: :jbhmm:

all that red meat at his age, along with all those rumored health issues
 

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why do people like you hate when others try to put trump and co on the record so theres no hearsay claims or unsubstantiated reports later on?
Because its timewasting

there's only a limited amount of hours in a day and a limited amount of congressional floor proposals that can be had in a session. Their time and resources will be better spent crafting real legislation or bargaining with Republicans on things that can actually change


On a cynical level, I think it's a miscalculation politically. It's extremely apparent to the American people that Trump is inept, immoral, and unqualified. The disingenuous impeachment proceedings won't convince anybody of the fact. Instead, it's more likely to rally his base during midterms as Republican congressmen with a horrible track record so far, can fall back on the fact that they defended their King from persecution . Ideally, you want an anemic Republican base during midterms
 

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Cheeto has 19 more months to make changes to this corrupt system of government , let's see how it plays out
 

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I think some of y'all don't understand. The Republican party has basically turned into Nazi's/Nazi Sympathizers. There's no working together for a better tomorrow anymore. They need to start putting this shyt on record. Schumer should've let them hold the government shutting down too.

All they've done while in power is pass a budget resolution that was passed when Pelosi was running things.

Other than that they've stripped all signs of due process and are gearing up to cut vital programs, as well as backing universal tariffs that every one is saying will have us fukked up in the coming months.

Everyone is cool on here now but we're at the calm before the storm phase. These muthafukkas need to act on anything ASAP lol.
 
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