My athiest bruhs, thoughts on this...

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

Because cells have functions and organs of their own that keep them alive. They have dna replication and protein synthesis that allows them to reproduce.

Look, I see where you're going with this. However there is no way you can tie this to Islam or any invisible mega cac in the sky either.

What keeps those organs alive? What causes the functions to function?

 

[Drummage_EL]

There is a 98% DNA match among humans and the great apes. That screams branch off.
We have vestigial tails during our early development that just screams that we had tails at one point in time that we used.
A virus building a 'coat' of food so that it will continue to survive without a host is an example of evolution(hence a virus becomes airborne). Evolution is basically adaptation techniques to keep your lineage going. Every species crawling on this planet has something like this going for their lineage or they wouldn't keep surviving. Your immune system is a testament to evolution.


How any thinking person can look at this and say, "It proves nothing." is beyond me. I would take critics of evolution seriously if they only had a clue. Instead they always seek out some video or reference some article. They can't discuss it one on one because they never actually take the time to study it themselves. Theory doesn't mean what you guys think it means in this case. But once again, no effort has been put into actually studying the subject at hand, only blind hatred and allegiance. Next you'll tell me the Earth's continents never move and that tectonic plates don't exist. Next you'll tell me the meteorite that killed the Dinosaurs doesn't exist even though we found the crater(by accident even) and visual fossilized proof to go along with the fact.

As far as the Big Bang, there is visual evidence that the Universe is expanding(redshifting and blueshifting). Hence it had to have been at a smaller state at some point. Now beyond what that smaller state was like, I'll give it to you guys that that's harder to call. But then how do you explain the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image? More theories I guess even though it's visual evidence.....

Evolutionists & evolution believers LOVE using this argument to prove that we evolved from apes. Humans having 98.5% DNA similarity to apes doesn't mean a damn thing. And here's why ------> ""We also share about 50% of our DNA with bananas and that doesn't make us half bananas, either from the waist up or the waist down."

Steve Jones
Scientist, Evolutionist

An exceptional quote to begin with, revealing that specific, pinpointed similarities between two separate species can mean very little. Baboons, according to research, share 90% of their DNA with human beings. Does this, therefore, make them 90% human? The answer, in light of this quote, is absolutely not. Dr. Barney Maddox, a leading genetic genome researcher, also noted concerning man/monkey genetic differences:

"Now the genetic difference between human and his nearest relative, the chimpanzee, is at least 1.6%. That doesn't sound like much, but calculated out, that is a gap of at least 48,000,000 nucleotides, and a change of only 3 nucleotides is fatal to an animal; there is no possibility of change."

Human Genome Project, Quantitative A Disproof of Evolution, CEM facts sheet. Cited in Doubts about Evolution?

And as a writer for the Smithsonian concedes: "just a few percentage points can translate into vast, unbridgeable gaps between species."

Simply stated, if we were to take this idea of similarities to determine which animal is most like us, we would come up with dire results. Take, for instance, our number of chromosomes (46). Two of our closest ancestors would be the tobacco plant (48) and the bat (44). Furthermore, because the chromosomes in living matter are one of the most complex bits of matter in the known universe, it would seem logical to assume that organisms with the least number of chromosomes are the end result of millions of years of evolution experimenting to increase complexity in living organisms. Therefore, this would reveal that we started from penicillium with only 2 chromosomes, and slowly evolved into fruit flies (8), and after many more millions of years we became tomatoes (12), and so on, until we reached the human stage of 46 chromosomes. Millions of years from now, if we're fortunate, we may become the ultimate life form, a fern, with a total of 480 chromosomes.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yes, but do you see that the word "passing" and the notion of "generations" requires different "nows" to be connected? If they are not connected, then evolution doesn't have a mechanism to work with.

Evolution isn't dependent on "time" in the ltieral sense, but it helps people to understand how it works ACROSS generations

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Evolution is bullshyt because there is no mention of the fact that talking serpents once roamed the earth

Spoiler

 

[Ciggavelli]

Evolution isn't dependent on "time" in the ltieral sense, but it helps people to understand how it works ACROSS generations

I completely understand that. You always assume that the person you are talking to is an idiot or "dense."

I was just hoping we could have a conversation about the ramifications of having a bunch of "nows" existing simultaneously, but not being connected. I guess I was wrong

Maybe somebody else actually read the book I was referencing. I think it opens up a bunch of difficult questions about evolution.

 

[MostReal]

I guess I see them as going hand and hand. What is the definition of evolution to you?

to grow or become better than before genetically. There is a reason why the word EVOLUTION is used. Think on that for a second. I have not seen that in the human race. I have only witnessed adaptation.

 

[Ciggavelli]

to grow or become better than before genetically. There is a reason why the word EVOLUTION is used. Think on that for a second. I have not seen that in the human race. I have only witnessed adaptation.

Yeah, we have different definitions. Evolution doesn't require one to become better in my mind. It's all about adapting to the environment for me

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I completely understand that. You always assume that the person you are talking to is an idiot or "dense."

I was just hoping we could have a conversation about the ramifications of having a bunch of "nows" existing simultaneously, but not being connected. I guess I was wrong

Maybe somebody else actually read the book I was referencing. I think it opens up a bunch of difficult questions about evolution.

THERES NO DIFFICULT QUESTIONS!

ITS fukkING SETTLED>

I don't have time to sit here and go through the details of complex papers and arguments that you nikkas don't even understand.

We've been through this before.

Your exposure to science is limited to popular articles online where as some of us actually do shyt like this for a living and paid attention in class.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

to grow or become better than before genetically. There is a reason why the word EVOLUTION is used. Think on that for a second. I have not seen that in the human race. I have only witnessed adaptation.

Thats evolution.

 

[Ciggavelli]

THERES NO DIFFICULT QUESTIONS!

ITS fukkING SETTLED>

I don't have time to sit here and go through the details of complex papers and arguments that you nikkas don't even understand.

We've been through this before.

Your exposure to science is limited to popular articles online where as some of us actually do shyt like this for a living and paid attention in class.

This is your typical response, Napoleon, when you have nothing to add and you are lost. We've all seen this before. You are very transparent sometimes

Personal attacks (which are completely unfounded by the way) to do not count as "wins"


Edit: and you do not do this for a living. Quit fooling yourself.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Evolutionists & evolution believers LOVE using this argument to prove that we evolved from apes. Humans having 98.5% DNA similarity to humans doesn't mean a damn thing. And here's why ------> ""We also share about 50% of our DNA with bananas and that doesn't make us half bananas, either from the waist up or the waist down."

Steve Jones
Scientist, Evolutionist

An exceptional quote to begin with, revealing that specific, pinpointed similarities between two separate species can mean very little. Baboons, according to research, share 90% of their DNA with human beings. Does this, therefore, make them 90% human? The answer, in light of this quote, is absolutely not. Dr. Barney Maddox, a leading genetic genome researcher, also noted concerning man/monkey genetic differences:

"Now the genetic difference between human and his nearest relative, the chimpanzee, is at least 1.6%. That doesn't sound like much, but calculated out, that is a gap of at least 48,000,000 nucleotides, and a change of only 3 nucleotides is fatal to an animal; there is no possibility of change."

Human Genome Project, Quantitative A Disproof of Evolution, CEM facts sheet. Cited in Doubts about Evolution?

And as a writer for the Smithsonian concedes: "just a few percentage points can translate into vast, unbridgeable gaps between species."

Simply stated, if we were to take this idea of similarities to determine which animal is most like us, we would come up with dire results. Take, for instance, our number of chromosomes (46). Two of our closest ancestors would be the tobacco plant (48) and the bat (44). Furthermore, because the chromosomes in living matter are one of the most complex bits of matter in the known universe, it would seem logical to assume that organisms with the least number of chromosomes are the end result of millions of years of evolution experimenting to increase complexity in living organisms. Therefore, this would reveal that we started from penicillium with only 2 chromosomes, and slowly evolved into fruit flies (8), and after many more millions of years we became tomatoes (12), and so on, until we reached the human stage of 46 chromosomes. Millions of years from now, if we're fortunate, we may become the ultimate life form, a fern, with a total of 480 chromosomes

I know its your favorite Strawman but monkeys and apes are still around. Humans didnt evolve from them any more than Ostriches evolved from Emus.

 

[Will Ross]

Anyone denying a god is a fool.

 

[YoungMasterGold]

can yall debunk what he says??

Yeah. The guy is a moron. Not because he believes in a god, but because the arguments he presented were moronic, to say the least. Quick responses:

First, the theory of evolution is a scientific theory. That means it's an explanation of factual phenomena: changes in allele frequencies occur in a population; those changes may be passed on; with time (and, often, isolation) continued changes may cause a new, sometimes distinguishable group to arise. So, no, it wasn't "one cell that erupted into all life" we have today, but a population of unicellular organisms may have evolved into multicellular ones.

Second, Evolution has been observed, and can be forensically examined. Experiments on hybridisation should suffice as an example of the former; and the presence of shared endogenous retroviruses between humans and other apes, serves as an example of the latter.

Third, no, the second law of thermodynamics doesn't prevent evolution from occurring. He most likely doesn't understand what the second law of thermodynamics states. Also, order can arise from chaos. Only someone willfully ignorant believe otherwise. Not everything on earth is perfect.

Finally, it's all well and good that he felt some deity, but that's got nothing to do with the theory of evolution nor any origins theories. Many theists accept evolution.

For the sake of argument, what if time doesn't exist? I know that's a big if for many people, but it throws a wrench in the evolutionary argument though, no?

No.

 

[tmonster]

he does not understand science.
next!

 

[MouseTeeth]

I know its your favorite Strawman but monkeys and apes are still around. Humans didnt evolve from them any more than Ostriches evolved from Emus.

You fundamentally misunderstand what the theory of evolution is asserting. Nobody ever said we evolved from apes, we share a common ancestor, that's it.