My issue is this shyt(X1X) being compared to HIGH END gaming PCs. Its just stupid.-Spliz-

[MeachTheMonster]

Check this. Watch the whole vid. It basically runs like a more refined version of the PS4 Pro game. But its not comparing to a high end PC version of the game. They flat out say that here. Its no ambient occlusion. It runs at lower than max settings and it hovers between 1440p-1800p for the majority of the game. Theres like a couple of empty scenes where completely nothing is going on where it hits 4K. Thats it.

Check which GPU you need on PC for a maxed out locked 60fps

You wanna make it out to be "a couple" but it hits 4k and above more than you are trying to lead on here.

His exact words were "it does go up to 4k during shootouts"

He also says "you get enhanced geometry and other bells and whistles pretty much on par with the PC version"

Also, this is one game. In the same sentence where he says this game isn't much of a leap over Pro he says other games are and X1X can compete with high end PCs in those games.

So we believing him or not?

 

[Rekkapryde]

no bruh your shyt dont look used, it looks infested



pictures dont lie, your shyt is FILTHY

cant afford cleaning supplies but you wanna preach about 4k gaming



I actually do feel bad for you. Cant even afford the very thing you post about all day. And its not even that expensive

you are the very definition of having a champagne taste but have a beer budget

@MeachTheMonster vs @itsyoung!! ...
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[Fatboi1]

Meachs argument is even weaker now thanks to a Nvidia driver improving Destiny 2 PC performance by 53%

Nvidia's new Geforce 388.31 driver improves Destiny 2's performance by up to 53% | OC3D.net

 

[spliz]

Check which GPU you need on PC for a maxed out locked 60fps

You wanna make it out to be "a couple" but it hits 4k and above more than you are trying to lead on here.

His exact words were "it does go up to 4k during shootouts"

He also says "you get enhanced geometry and other bells and whistles pretty much on par with the PC version"

Also, this is one game. In the same sentence where he says this game isn't much of a leap over Pro he says other games are and X1X can compete with high end PCs in those games.

So we believing him or not?

Answer my question. Is the Pro just as powerful as a PC maxed out at 1440p? And he never said that the X1X can compete with high end PCs. fukk u get that line from? Yall nikkas be lying. Lmao. The game isnt maxed out. AT ALL. Do u know what a maxed out Titanfall 2 is? Have u ever checked the settings? nikka it could be 2 settings on par with the PC version. Thats not a maxed out Titanfall 2. U nikkas HONESTLY thing this damn console can compete with a high end PC? Jesus Christ this thread shouldnt even be this long but it proves how delusional alot of yall are about this console. ONE of my cards can max out Titanfall 2 at 1440p with well over 100fps.

 

[spliz]

Meachs argument is even weaker now thanks to a Nvidia driver improving Destiny 2 PC performance by 53%

Nvidia's new Geforce 388.31 driver improves Destiny 2's performance by up to 53% | OC3D.net

This thread is way too long given the subject matter. These dudes honestly thing this shyt can compete with a high end PC. This is fukkin retarded. Another thing i cant deal wit is grown ass men flat out lying. I dont have the patience for that. And I refuse to argue with some shyt like that.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Answer my question. Is the Pro just as powerful as a PC maxed out at 1440p?

First, dumb question. I never made this claim about Xbox.

As I said in the OP it's not about raw specs but user experience.

The correct question here would be "do you think pro offers a comparable experience to a PC maxed out at 1440p?"

My answer would be "kinda" the lack of extra ram and bandwidth make it that some PC features just can't. Matched by the PRO

That answer changes to yes with X because it does have the ram and bandwidth for 4K textures. More complex geometry, and 4k alpha effects.

And this is why your argument keeps breaking down.

On one hand you say 1X isn't comparable to a high end PC cause it can't match the "max" settings.

Then you turn around and say 1X is just an PRO with higher resolution, despite the fact that 1X offers much more than that. 4K textures, effects, better shadows, lower LOD, and the list goes on.

To you none of that matters, but when it comes to Xbox vs PC it makes all the difference in the world.

Use broken sony stan logic brehs

And he never said that the X1X can compete with high end PCs. fukk u get that line from? Yall nikkas be lying. Lmao. U nikkas HONESTLY thing this damn console can compete with a high end PC? Jesus Christ this thread shouldnt even be this long but it proves how delusional alot of yall are about this console.

He clearly says it. He says they were surprised Titanfall on X wasn't as close to high end PC as other games.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Meachs argument is even weaker now thanks to a Nvidia driver improving Destiny 2 PC performance by 53%

Nvidia's new Geforce 388.31 driver improves Destiny 2's performance by up to 53% | OC3D.net

Moved down a card in one game. Big whoop.

I didn't even post the best examples of X games compared to PC. Y'all wanna cherry pick singular situations we can do that.

 

[spliz]

First, dumb question. I never made this claim about Xbox.

As I said in the OP it's not about raw specs but user experience.

The correct question here would be "do you think pro offers a comparable experience to a PC maxed out at 1440p?"

My answer would be "kinda" the lack of extra ram and bandwidth make it that some PC features just can't. Matched by the PRO

That answer changes to yes with X because it does have the ram and bandwidth for 4K textures. More complex geometry, and 4k alpha effects.

And this is why your argument keeps breaking down.

On one hand you say 1X isn't comparable to a high end PC cause it can't match the "max" settings.

Then you turn around and say 1X is just an PRO with higher resolution, despite the fact that 1X offers much more than that. 4K textures, effects, better shadows, lower LOD, and the list goes on.

To you none of that matters, but when it comes to Xbox vs PC it makes all the difference in the world.

Use broken sony stan logic brehs


He clearly says it. He says they were surprised Titanfall on X wasn't as close to high end PC as other games.

No. He said he was SURPRISED that it wasnt this big leap over the Pro as some of the other games. Again. Stop lying. nikka an RX 580 can max out Titanfall 2 at 1440p and get over 70fps. Drop some settings like how the One X does. Like Ambient Occlusion and shadow detail etc etc. And yes. It will be on par with the One X version Dynamic 4K “experience”. One X may hit 4K a little more often. Like I been fukkin saying. The One X is a glorified RX 580. At 1080p and 1440p maxed out. The 580 will more than likely run the game even better than the One X. To keep it real with u. The extra bandwith does NOT equal raw power. And the CPU would bottleneck the fukk out of the One X running the game running at 1080p and 1440p. Which is why the RX 580 would more than likely come out on top at those resolutions.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No. He said he was SURPRISED that it wasnt this big leap over the Pro as some of the other games. Again.

So wait. X1X is a HUGE leap over Pro in most games. But still wouldn't be considered comparable to high end PC?

How the fukk does that work? PS4 PRO "low end" right now?

Is "mid level" everything between a titan and a 1050?

How are you determining these levels breh

Stop lying. nikka an RX 580 can max out Titanfall 2 at 1440p and get over 70fps. Drop some settings like how the One X does. Like Ambient Occlusion and shadow detail etc etc. And yes. It will be on par with the One X version. One X may hit 4K a little more often. Like I been fukkin saying. The One X is a glorified RX 580. At 1080p and 1440p maxed out. The 580 will prolly run the game even better than the One X. To keep it real with u. The extra bandwith does NOT equal raw power. And the CPU would bottleneck the fukk out of the One X running the game running at 1080p and 1440p. Which is why the RX 580 would more than likely come out on top at those resolutions.

As with every comparison you attempt to downlplay X randomly while propping up some other shyt.

It doesn't matter that X has 4K alpha effects, frequently plays at 4K resolution and can even go up to 6K.

You'll compare that to a card at 1440p without the extra effects and claim that card is better.

shyts ridiculous at this point. Titanfall on 1X is running at higher settings than your 580 example here.

And this is why I said in the OP

There's no point in splitting hair about the settings because it's IMPOSSIBLE to do an apples to apples comparison.

The thread and my argument is about perception/user experience.

A little extra blur at the edge of a shadow doesn't matter when you are playing at ~4K HDR with 4K textures and effects.

You and everyone who games on PC knows most times the difference between high and ultra is not very discernible.

But you wanna split hairs about it here

 

[Fatboi1]

this thread funny

 

[spliz]

So wait. X1X is a HUGE leap over Pro in most games. But still wouldn't be considered comparable to high end PC?

How the fukk does that work? PS4 PRO "low end" right now?

Is "mid level" everything between a titan and a 1050?

How are you determining these levels breh



As with every comparison you attempt to downlplay X randomly while propping up some other shyt.

It doesn't matter that X has 4K alpha effects, frequently plays at 4K resolution and can even go up to 6K.

You'll compare that to a card at 1440p without the extra effects and claim that card is better.

shyts ridiculous at this point. Titanfall on 1X is running at higher settings than your 580 example here.

And this is why I said in the OP

There's no point in splitting hair about the settings because it's IMPOSSIBLE to do an apples to apples comparison.

The thread and my argument is about perception/user experience.

A little extra blur at the edge of a shadow doesn't matter when you are playing at ~4K HDR with 4K textures and effects.

You and everyone who games on PC knows most times the difference between high and ultra is not very discernible.

But you wanna split hairs about it here

Im really starting to believe ur a fukkin retard. First off. The game is NOT running higher settings than a MAXED out game on an RX 580. Being that the fukkin game on One X is NOT maxed out. It HITS 4K and supersamples higher in a few empty scenes. They CLEARLY state that MAJORITY of the game is 1440p-1800p. That the game is just a more REFINED version of the Pro experience. The PC isnt that. The PC is the BENCHMARK. The extra bandwidth gives it the ability to hit 4K a lil smoother than the RX 580. But thats about it. The One X has 9gb vram available for gaming. The RX 580 has 8gb of Vram. One X only has ONE more gb of Vram. But this is where it gets slippery. Since the fukkin cpu in the One X is damn near a glorified tablet cpu. The RX 580 will more than likely perform better when it comes to lower resolutions than 4K. U dont know shyt about PC gaming fam. Just stop. If u think that one GB of Vram is that big of a deal. I got a bridge to sell u.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Im really starting to believe ur a fukkin retard. First off. The game is NOT running higher settings than a MAXED out game on an RX 580. Being that the fukkin game on One X is NOT maxed out.

The scenario you presented was not "maxed out" it was 1440p with lower settings.

Regardless of the resolution X is running at, the effects are always at 4K. It also has some extra geometry, and other effects only available on high end PCs.

Also runs higher than 1440p ALL THE TIME.

Yet, you think it's an apt comparison to compare that with a 580 at 1440p and lower settings

Like I said you move goalposts when you see fit. Settings matter profusely.....until they don't

You been running around for months saying X is the same as Pro despite the fact that they almost always play on much different settings. Even more meaningful settings like 4K textures. Don't matter to you in this scenario. I mean adding 4K textures makes a MUCH larger difference than changing shadows from high to ultra. But to you that doesn't matter. Them shadows though......

It HITS 4K and supersamples higher in a few empty scenes. They CLEARLY state that MAJORITY of the game is 1440p-1800p.

Not even characterizing this correctly as we've gone over a bunch of times. He clearly says you get up to 4K IN FIREFIGHTS. That's not empty scenes. It only ever drops to 1440p very rarely in very taxing scenes, usually cutscenes. And again it retains the 4k effects and extra geometry.

That is in no way comparable to a 580 at 1440p

That the game is just a more REFINED version of the Pro experience. The PC isnt that. The PC is the BENCHMARK.

And you do the same shyt again.

Higher settings on X compared to Pro= the same.

Higher settings on PC compared to X= great big transformative difference.

How does your logic work?

 

[spliz]

The scenario you presented was not "maxed out" it was 1440p with lower settings.

Regardless of the resolution X is running at, the effects are always at 4K. It also has some extra geometry, and other effects only available on high end PCs.

Also runs higher than 1440p ALL THE TIME.

Yet, you think it's an apt comparison to compare that with a 580 at 1440p and lower settings

Like I said you move goalposts when you see fit. Settings matter profusely.....until they don't

You been running around for months saying X is the same as Pro despite the fact that they almost always play on much different settings. Even more meaningful settings like 4K textures. Don't matter to you in this scenario. I mean adding 4K textures makes a MUCH larger difference than changing shadows from high to ultra. But to you that doesn't matter. Them shadows though......


Not even characterizing this correctly as we've gone over a bunch of times. He clearly says you get up to 4K IN FIREFIGHTS. That's not empty scenes. It only ever drops to 1440p very rarely in very taxing scenes, usually cutscenes. And again it retains the 4k effects and extra geometry.

That is in no way comparable to a 580 at 1440p


And you do the same shyt again.

Higher settings on X compared to Pro= the same.

Higher settings on PC compared to X= great big transformative difference.

How does your logic work?

No it wasnt. Go back and read. I didnt try to compare a 580 at 1440p at LOWER settings. U either a flat out habitual liar or u have bad comprehension. I said 1440p MAX settings. With an RX 580. I said if u lower the settings to where the One X is. And use the SAME “Dynamic” settings as the One X. At most the One X may hit 4K a little smoother. Based on the extra VRam. Which honestly. The RX 580 has 8gb Vram and the One X has 9gb of VRam available for gaming. Thats only a 1gb vram difference. Which helps a little at 4K resolutions. But doesnt with lower resolutions. The RX 580 would more than likely beat the One X at 1440p and ESPECIALLY 1080p cause of the weak cpu in the One X. One X couldnt even hold a SOLID 60fps at 1080p in Gears Of War 4. shyt drops down to 40s sometimes. Meanwhile the RX 580 runs that shyt above 80fps maxed out.


Like I said before. That One X cpu is a bottleneck. Especially at lower resolutions where the cpu is put to use more. Bottom line the console cant be compared to high end PCs.

 

[Ciggavelli]

Meachs argument is even weaker now thanks to a Nvidia driver improving Destiny 2 PC performance by 53%

Nvidia's new Geforce 388.31 driver improves Destiny 2's performance by up to 53% | OC3D.net

I just downloaded the latest driver, and was going to play the game for the first time ever, and come to find out that they are doing some maintenance until 12 PST.

On my easy workday too

 

[Ciggavelli]

@MeachTheMonster me and @spliz rock 24 teraflops. We game at a different level. The X1X, and I have one, is nice for consoles and 4K owners, but it's not touching what we have.