Name something that's NOT in the Bible but people think it is...?

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Communion?

you don’t lose your salvation by not partaking in communion.

communion is a foreshadowing of the heavenly banquet.

Christ said do this in remembrance of me. Not do this to have your sins forgiven or do this in order to gain eternal life.

Baptism is the only custom where scripture says you have to be reborn to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again, that’s debatable.
 

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you don’t lose your salvation by not partaking in communion.

communion is a foreshadowing of the heavenly banquet.

Christ said do this in remembrance of me. Not do this to have your sins forgiven or do this in order to gain eternal life.

Baptism is the only custom where scripture says you have to be reborn to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again, that’s debatable

When does one get “salvation”, according to The Scriptures?
 

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Homosexuality is a sin breh...

It's the same as pre marital sex or shoplifting in the eyes of the lord but it is a sin breh.


People pick on gays or single them out as if it's more severe than other sins but that is to due personal dislikes rather than of God..


Not true homosexual often say what they do is not a sin that is why people bring it up. Nobody is saying sex outside marriage is not a sin
 

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my bad, a few years. a few decades before these books were written. point still stands

It doesn't. The difference between the time you mentioned is that it's
:mjlol: You quoting the very translation I was referring to is ironic. You do know King James was an open homosexual right? His "translation" of the Bible was done specifically to get the church off his back because they didn't like him flaunting his gay lover in the court. Who knows what the actual original version of that book says.



By that logic anything not depicted in the bible is a sin. That's too much mental gymnastics.

There is no doubt of what it says. The Bible existed over 1000 years before and the Old Testament even longer. The Dead Sea Scrolls match what we have today.
 

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Homosexuality is a sin breh...

It's the same as pre marital sex or shoplifting in the eyes of the lord but it is a sin breh.


People pick on gays or single them out as if it's more severe than other sins but that is to due personal dislikes rather than of God..
I know it is

I said it was

please don’t misunderstand what I’m saying

let use an analogy

let’s look at shoplifting

you can label yourself a shoplifter and that’s not the sin really … unless that influences other people to shoplift

but what makes shoplifting sinful is engaging in it by going and stealing … in other words

also it would be sinful to plan how to steal by yourself or with others or to fantasize about stealing …

in other words the action of the sin activates it

Adam didn’t fall until he bit the fruit

not excusing homosexuality just thinking about it practically especially for people insisting that they’re born gay (which I don’t believe by the way) …

but obviously from my posting history you’ll see that I don’t support homosexuality in any way b
 

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:mjlol: You quoting the very translation I was referring to is ironic. You do know King James was an open homosexual right? His "translation" of the Bible was done specifically to get the church off his back because they didn't like him flaunting his gay lover in the court. Who knows what the actual original version of that book says.



By that logic anything not depicted in the bible is a sin. That's too much mental gymnastics.
See my post above
 

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:mjlol: You quoting the very translation I was referring to is ironic. You do know King James was an open homosexual right? His "translation" of the Bible was done specifically to get the church off his back because they didn't like him flaunting his gay lover in the court. Who knows what the actual original version of that book says.



By that logic anything not depicted in the bible is a sin. That's too much mental gymnastics.
Well the New Testament was copied over from Greek translation I believe..that is where the word Christ comes from..

And they most def left some ish out to fit their own agendas.
 

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Homosexuality is a sin breh...

It's the same as pre marital sex or shoplifting in the eyes of the lord but it is a sin breh.


People pick on gays or single them out as if it's more severe than other sins but that is to due personal dislikes rather than of God..
I think it is important to emphasize that it is not BEING a homosexual that is forbidden by the Torah, but rather the PERFORMANCE by a man of sexual acts with another male. Accordingly, the two Scriptural passages in which the act of [male] homosexuality is explicitly prohibited (and, in the Torah's own words, considered תּוֹעֵבָה toʿévoh 'a disgusting thing'—Wayyiqroʾ 18:22 and 20:13) employ the terms תִשְׁכַּב thish'kav (2nd person masc. sing. 'imperfect' conjugation of שָׁכַב shochav) and יִשְׁכַּב yish'kav (3rd person masc. sing. 'imperfect' conjugation of שָׁכַב shochav) from the verb-stem שכב which means to lie or to lie down. The hapax legomenon מִשְׁכְּבֵי אִשָּׁה mish'k'vé ʾishoh means (approximately) 'the manner of lying with a woman' and is idiomatically and euphemistically applied to the act of copulation.
 

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Well the New Testament was copied over from Greek translation I believe..that is where the word Christ comes from..

And they most def left some ish out to fit their own agendas.
The Greek word χριστός khristos (a 'christ') is just the translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ moshiyah (a 'messiah').

Shoʾul (the first king of united Yisroʾel) is called by the title מָשִׁיחַ moshiyah eleven times in the Book Sh'muʾel:
Sh'muʾel A 12:3, 12:5, 24:6 [twice], 24:10, 26:9, 26:11, 26:16, 26:23; Sh'muʾel B 1:14, 1:16
—and the Greek 'Pseudo-LXX' uses the word christ to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ moshiyah in all eleven cases.

I do not intend to quote the Greek text of all ten verses, but to demonstrate the point I will use Sh'muʾel B 1:14.
Original Tanach text:
:וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו דָּוִד אֵיךְ לֹא יָרֵאתָ לִשְׁלֹחַ יָדְךָ לְשַׁחֵת אֶת־מְשִׁיחַ יְיָ​

Greek Pseudo-LXX:
και ειπεν Δαυιδ πως ουκ εφοβηθης επενεγκειν χειρα σου διαφθειραι τον χριστον κυριου

English Translation:
Then Dowidh said to him: "How can you not have been afraid to stretch your hand out to kill Hashem's messiah?"
According to the legend (which first appears in an apocryphon of the Second Century BCE known as Letter of Aristeas), the translation made for Ptolemy Philadelphus in the Third Century BCE (i.e. the 'LXX') only included the five Torah books B'reshıth, Sh'moth, Wayyiqroʾ, B'midbor and D'vorim (the other 19 books, i.e. 'Pseudo-LXX', were made much later); there has never been a translation of the whole of the 24 books of the Tanach made by Jews until very recently. In any case, the Greek version that survives today and which is called by the name Septuagint cannot be the one the legend talks about, because our Sages record more than a dozen alterations that the Jewish Elders incorporated into their Greek translation (B'reshıth 1:1, 1:26, 2:2, 5:2, 11:7, 18:12, 49:6; Sh'moth 4:20, 12:40, 24:5, 24:11; Wayyiqroʾ 11:6; B'midbor 16:15; D'vorim 4:19, 17:3) and none of these is present in the current Septuagint (which, according to Aristeas, had originally been translated into Greek by seventy-two Jewish Elders—there were supposedly six from each of the twelve tribes).
 

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The Greek word χριστός khristos (a 'christ') is just the translation of the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ moshiyah (a 'messiah').

Shoʾul (the first king of united Yisroʾel) is called by the title מָשִׁיחַ moshiyah eleven times in the Book Sh'muʾel:

—and the Greek 'Pseudo-LXX' uses the word christ to translate the Hebrew מָשִׁיחַ moshiyah in all eleven cases.

I do not intend to quote the Greek text of all ten verses, but to demonstrate the point I will use Sh'muʾel B 1:14.

According to the legend (which first appears in an apocryphon of the Second Century BCE known as Letter of Aristeas), the translation made for Ptolemy Philadelphus in the Third Century BCE (i.e. the 'LXX') only included the five Torah books B'reshıth, Sh'moth, Wayyiqroʾ, B'midbor and D'vorim (the other 19 books, i.e. 'Pseudo-LXX', were made much later); there has never been a translation of the whole of the 24 books of the Tanach made by Jews until very recently. In any case, the Greek version that survives today and which is called by the name Septuagint cannot be the one the legend talks about, because our Sages record more than a dozen alterations that the Jewish Elders incorporated into their Greek translation (B'reshıth 1:1, 1:26, 2:2, 5:2, 11:7, 18:12, 49:6; Sh'moth 4:20, 12:40, 24:5, 24:11; Wayyiqroʾ 11:6; B'midbor 16:15; D'vorim 4:19, 17:3) and none of these is present in the current Septuagint (which, according to Aristeas, had originally been translated into Greek by seventy-two Jewish Elders—there were supposedly six from each of the twelve tribes).
Thx for the correction
 

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With respect to customs. Yes.
The only custom that is mandatory for salvation is baptism.
And that’s even in question because the thief that was crucified with Christ received salvation without having to be baptized.
Whoa what?

Baptism isn't required for salvation where did you read that? :wtf:
 
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