Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (December 12th)

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Yep. It's not about Primo. It's about Nas. People were begging for Nas to rock with Preem when he was with Hit Boy. And now they shifted their sick twisted scrutiny of Nas' music on Primo. Nas had to battle with this his all career pretty much. It's almost unbelievable how he keeps releasing music with that ungrateful crowd. A lot of mc's would have quit a long time ago. Hell, Jay and Andre 3000 basically did
People been begging him even before hit-boy.
 

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It's a refusal to admit people will never get what they want. They don't want a Nas/Premo album. They want a 1995-2001 Nas/Premo album. Nas is not the same rapper he was then, and Premo isn't the producer was then. So people listen to snippets and hear the modern Nas flow and maybe a beat/sample they don't like - which sounds pretty slow, not gonna lie - and get mad.

They can never be satisfied because they want their childhood or youth back.


It doesn't matter who Nas works with, a certain contingent is always going to complain:

Old heads hating on new age producers (Hitboy)

New heads bored with chopped samples (Premo)

Underground/Backpack heads don't like so-called mainstream/glossy beats (Timbaland, Trackmasters, Neptunes etc..)

.....he's not going to be able to please everyone:beli:
 

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Ordered CD and tape thinking I wouldn’t actually be using either, but just found an old cassette Walkman when I was doing some cleaning. Might have to listen to the album once that way for nostalgia sake.

Can’t believe we’re 12 hours away from this legendary pairing!
 

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Yep. It's not about Primo. It's about Nas. People were begging for Nas to rock with Preem when he was with Hit Boy. And now they shifted their sick twisted scrutiny of Nas' music on Primo. Nas had to battle with this his all career pretty much. It's almost unbelievable how he keeps releasing music with that ungrateful crowd. A lot of mc's would have quit a long time ago. Hell, Jay and Andre 3000 basically did

This thread is living proof of that. People here are looking for things to complain about. I don't care if the snippet sounds like trash. You can't start making assumptions about a 15-track, 45-minute album based on a 15-second clip. For all you know, that's the worst song on the album, or maybe it sounds better within the context of the album, like most songs do when you put them out as a body of work that's meant to be listened to a specific way.

I don't agree with Eminem's thoughts on Revival or the fact that he keeps trying to defend it, but the message behind what he's said still resonates with me. Putting out surprise albums was the only way for him to control the narrative. If you give people too much time to think about the album, they start creating expectations in their head of what it should sound like. If those expectations aren't met, then the album is automatically trash. Then you don't even listen to the whole album, so you miss parts of it that were meant to be heard. Again, Eminem was talking about Revival when he said all this, but what he said in general made sense.

My point is that Nas has made a living out of doing things his own way on his own terms. He chose now to do the album with Premier because it was the right time to do it now. It seems like this album was specifically meant to cater to the complainers and the hardcore fans who haven't listened to his music in twenty years. And guess what? The complainers are still complaining. You finally get what you want and you're losing your mind over a snippet.

Shut the fukk up, get out of this thread, and don't come back until you've listened to the album and can form an actual opinion based on what you listened to. It's not hard.
 

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It's a refusal to admit people will never get what they want. They don't want a Nas/Premo album. They want a 1995-2001 Nas/Premo album. Nas is not the same rapper he was then, and Premo isn't the producer was then. So people listen to snippets and hear the modern Nas flow and maybe a beat/sample they don't like - which sounds pretty slow, not gonna lie - and get mad.

They can never be satisfied because they want their childhood or youth back.

Nas is closer to the rapper he was back then than Premo is as a producer, therein lies the difference, Premo hasn’t been making great production for the last 10 years, Nas has been making great albums and great verses.

Premo is in my number 1 producers list, but that list also contains Dr Dre Havoc and RZA, out of that list probably only Havoc I would want to produce a full Nas album in an ideal world.

I think it’s actually the opposite of what you say, Premo is almost universally known as a top 5 producer in this genre, but time has move on and a lot of his recent work hasn’t been up to par. Acknowledging that it’s actually the opposite of wanting your youth back..
 

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Yep. It's not about Primo. It's about Nas. People were begging for Nas to rock with Preem when he was with Hit Boy. And now they shifted their sick twisted scrutiny of Nas' music on Primo. Nas had to battle with this his all career pretty much. It's almost unbelievable how he keeps releasing music with that ungrateful crowd. A lot of mc's would have quit a long time ago. Hell, Jay and Andre 3000 basically did


Nah, cats were definitely hatin on the beats Primo did for that Ransom drop but the Nas element is going to make those haters/critics of Preme, even louder because no one is under a bigger microscope than Nas.
 
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With all due respect to the others from that series.... this is Nas we talkin about.. he's 2x bigger than them.
Promo has been trash for this album

Not shytting on you directly or personally, but why does this shyt even matter? I'm so confused as to why cats are complaining about what singles/snippets get chosen over others, what interviews and podcasts they should or shouldn't be doing, the level of intensity of the press run, etc. WT flying fukk does any of that have to do with THE MUSIC??

So many pages of this thread remind me of cats arguing and debating about record sales. Unless you have a financial stake in the album's commercial success, what possible relevance does any of that have to do with the quality of the product? I get that these topics will come up because it's a discussion about all aspects of the album. But people are preemptively adjusting their opinions about an album they haven't even heard based upon how the record label is promoting it. :dahell:


It's the weirdest shyt in the world to me that people allow the enjoyment of the music they listen to to be influenced by whether or not other people like it or show interest in it.
 
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