Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (Discussion Thread)

[IllmaticDelta]

That’s cause nas gets the Lebron effect.

All his work gets the most scrutiny.

People were just happy to get music from Mobb. De La…, etc.


like nobody scrutinizing Joel Embid game like that, they just happy he’s on the court.

this

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

These recent Snoop and Dogg pound beats are WAY better than anything on here. But then again snoop has always had a great ear for beats.







Throwback

 

[spliz]

this

LeBron deserves it. Nas don’t. Lol

 

[mson]

 

[threattonature]

After 5 playthroughs this album is solid but just that IMO. Not bad by any means but just missing the real crazy standout tracks that make me want to keep hitting rewind. Definitely enjoyable and Nas was doing his thing but the beats are too understated. I would've preferred the more rhythmic Premiere beats instead of the more raw understated boom bap beats.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

LeBron deserves it. Nas don’t. Lol

Goat gets Goat treatment

 

[NormanConnors]

I told yall what would happen . fukk what everyone else talking bout.. I'm about to buy 2 more copies. I drove to Raleigh and back today and I listened to it 4 times total. One time on youtube when it dropped and 7 times driving. It would have been 6, but I let my wife listen to Oliva Dean's album twice and Syd Once. Fuk the bullshyt, I dig it. Primo is almost 60 and Nas is 52. I think it's some great "old man" hip hop music. I personally like the De la soul and Mobb Deep albums better, but I love the album. For people talking about the beats are simple, most of Primo's classic tracks are very simple. Dwyck is a 2 bar bass loop and a half-bar "synthetic substitution" drum sample over it. "Second childhood" is a 2 bar Pebo Bryson loop. Memory lane is just a 2 bar loop with no changes. We all like what we like. This aint for everyone. Some people said the Mobb, De la, and even Common/Pete Rock albums were trash so we all got our likes and dislikes. I detest trap music. I hate trap music more than I hate the police, but if that's someone's cup of tea, that's for them...

Exactly, to me this better than the Com/Pete album, De La was better too. Com/Pete is the let down album IMO, best tracks were the singles. Opinions I guess.

 

[NormanConnors]

My boy who like 27 hit me up like "yo u heard Nas album?? Nas spittin but Preme washed.." smh lol

Maaan a 27 year old cant say Preem is washed

 

[LevelUp]

 

[spliz]

Maaan a 27 year old cant say Preem is washed

Nah imma keep it real this nikka is a student. lol. nikka loved Premo and feels like IWW is the greatest hip hop album of all time. shyt weird tho cause he a Harlem nikka and fukk wit alotta the young shyt too.

 

[spliz]

This shyt is fire.

 

[Piff Perkins]

A lot of people on social media are dumb as fukk and just say things to score points with whatever the popular opinion is. I care more about what people are saying here than on Twitter.

My thing is, when people say the beats are bad, what the hell are they talking about? There's nothing on this album that's objectively terrible. I already knew where this was going to go with how much people were trashing "Define My Name," which was just a hype track meant to announce the album. The snippet of "Welcome to the Underground" was being dissected. The expectations everyone had for this were high. There are people that have been up at night for twenty years, having weird fantasies about what this album would sound like. Then it came out, and because it's not what they wanted, it's trash. It's been one day and people can't even let the music sit before coming out with wild opinions.

I loved Mr. Morale when it came out and I didn't know what people were saying about it beforehand. Turns out a lot of people didn't like it, not because it's objectively terrible, but because it wasn't what they wanted from Kendrick's first album in five years. It's not for everyone, which is fair. But saying Mr. Morale is trash or this is the worst Nas album you've ever listened to? It becomes ridiculous at some point.

I listened to some songs from the De La album and there was some great stuff there, but I couldn't get into it. Even Nas' verse sounded off to me, like I could barely hear what he was saying. I don't think I'm in the right space to take that album in, so I'm going to let it sit for a while and come back to it later. I can't say it's trash or that I don't like it. It's just not for me right now, but the Mobb Deep album is. When I'm ready, I'm going to give it a fair shot and judge it accordingly.

I've learned this lesson too many times with music. People need to let things grow on them. If you really think the album sucks, like Premier shouldn't be producing anymore, then that's cool, I guess. But if you're on the fence, then go back to it in a week or a month and see if your opinion changes instead of just writing it off after one listen.

My only issue is that there has to be acknowledgement or awareness of what general consensus is, whether you agree or not. I didn't like Mr. Morale that much and it was clearly disliked by a lot of people on twitter when he dropped. It got some bad reviews too. And there was a sense amongst some that Kendrick had fallen off lyrically and rapper wise, which later played into how the 2024 rap battle was initially perceived. And yet there are some Kendrick fans who are obsessed with denying the album got bad reviews or wasn't well liked. They're constantly claiming that bots or anti-Kendrick forces convinced people the album was disappointing. I think fans should be able to reject conspiracies and just admit reality. There is no defeat in saying "this is getting killed on Twitter but I fukk with it heavy."

I like plenty of shyt that people hate. Albums, movies, etc that got bad reviews.

 

[GeeEffKay]

Loving this shyt even more today . Won’t be surprised to see many will coming around to this eventually. It was always gonna be divisive reaction for a nas and preme album no matter what we got.

 

[NormanConnors]

You didn't understand my point. I said sometimes the producer gets into one mode and doesn't vary the sounds within their own style. There's some Alchemist albums that will be 5 piano loops, 3 sparse drumless loops, and a few 70's prog rock samples and they're roughly the same tempo. That's when you get that one long song feeling.

Madlib is someone who avoids this because he samples different genres to the point that all the beats sound different. You can play Madvillainy, Bandana, and Pinata and see that.

When it's one producer they might record a song or two with the artist in a month and the schedule gets spread out and staggered how ever long it takes to finish. The individual songs might work but when it's finished you might have 12 songs that sound the same. You gotta make sure to switch things up a bit so final album doesn't get repetitive.

I never said 1 producer albums don't work.

Facts that's why I've always said there is a difference between being repetitive and cohesive, the true goat producers and people with solid ears understand this.

 

[spliz]

My only issue is that there has to be acknowledgement or awareness of what general consensus is, whether you agree or not. I didn't like Mr. Morale that much and it was clearly disliked by a lot of people on twitter when he dropped. It got some bad reviews too. And there was a sense amongst some that Kendrick had fallen off lyrically and rapper wise, which later played into how the 2024 rap battle was initially perceived. And yet there are some Kendrick fans who are obsessed with denying the album got bad reviews or wasn't well liked. They're constantly claiming that bots or anti-Kendrick forces convinced people the album was disappointing. I think fans should be able to reject conspiracies and just admit reality. There is no defeat in saying "this is getting killed on Twitter but I fukk with it heavy."

I like plenty of shyt that people hate. Albums, movies, etc that got bad reviews.

This is real. I can’t say nothing about Nas being hated on with this cause son been getting extra love lately.