Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (Discussion Thread)

[L $ C]

Why you nikkas worried so much about a fukking roll out like y’all on their payroll getting a check


Just worry about the music being lackluster on this

They are hand in hand

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

I guess? De la soul just dropped an amazing body of work a few weeks earlier that maybe wasn’t de la soul is dead buttpefty damn close quality wise

if you were around during that era, you'd know that De la Soul is dead was shytted on too from some fans and the media. Even though it received 5 mics in the source and high praise from some other media, not everyone felt the same. Most fans were expecting another 3 feet high and rising. It's easy 34 years later since the death of Trugoy and the praise of the album to look back and THINK everyone was on board with it, but that definitely wasn't the case. This also applied to Eric B and Rakim's LTRHE. At the time, it also received 5 mics in the source, but Word Up magazine didn't praise it as much and many fans weren't into the darker tone of the album compared to the first 2 releases.

 

[Awesome Wells]

if you were around during that era, you'd know that De la Soul is dead was shytted on too from some fans and the media. Even though it received 5 mics in the source and high praise from some other media, not everyone felt the same. Most fans were expecting another 3 feet high and rising. It's easy 34 years later since the death of Trugoy and the praise of the album to look back and THINK everyone was on board with it, but that definitely wasn't the case. This also applied to Eric B and Rakim's LTRHE. At the time, it also received 5 mics in the source, but Word Up magazine didn't praise it as much and many fans weren't into the darker tone of the album compared to the first 2 releases.

This is facts.

Both of those classics were seen as "fall-off's" by the general heads. Pos spoke on it before and said that's why they addressed a lot of that on Buhloone Mindstate. This was also when Lyor was speaking about how Rush was managing De La along with Tribe, but De La couldn't keep up with Tribe musically, on tour or get the fans as engaged. Tip mentioned it too and said this is when the split started between Native Tongues.

 

[ArchStanton]

I forget who said it, but someone said the tape version fits the vibe of the album better and I think they're right. I have bought a few tapes over the years as a gimmick and I always play them at least once, and they always sound like shyt compared to other formats (I have all the Hitboy/Nas tapes except KDII, which didn't have a tape). But this one is different. Weird.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I agree with the first sentence…that one isn’t close at this point, imo.

Disagree with the 2nd. In terms of averages and percentages…I can name some guys with greater discographies. Kendrick, Kanye, for starters. If you condensed Nas discography down to like his 4-5 best albums then yeah, now we’re talking. I’ll put Esco’s Top 5 up against any artist’s Top 5, confidently

Nas and Jay both got the same problem of their discogs just being too clogged with mid amongst brilliance.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Re listened to this over the weekend.

The production felt rushed and lazy plain and simple.

Some of the beats didn't have a decent mix. The samples weren't even chopped properly.

Overall the highs were enough to balance out the weak shyt.

3.5 mics

A lot of the beats sound like first takes, hollow skeletons of what could be great shyt.

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

Nas and Jay both got the same problem of their discogs just being too clogged with mid amongst brilliance.

kanye got a lot of mids too, it's just that he was on a longer winning streak with the 5 first releases

 

[Budda]

Nas and Jay both got the same problem of their discogs just being too clogged with mid amongst brilliance.

Everybody has mids apart from Kendrick Biggie and Outkast.

If Kendrick produces 15 albums he would make mids too, I already think Mr Morale ain’t too great at all.

 

[Spidey Man]

Everybody has mids apart from Kendrick Biggie and Outkast.

If Kendrick produces 15 albums he would make mids too, I already think Mr Morale ain’t too great at all.

Yeah let's revisit Kendrick in 2036. Hopefully he doesn't decide to play the flute after Not Like Us goes diamond.

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

Everybody has mids apart from Kendrick Biggie and Outkast.

If Kendrick produces 15 albums he would make mids too, I already think Mr Morale ain’t too great at all.

I never compare solos to group, that's unfair. Biggie died after 2 alums and like you said Kendrick got one mid album already. Let's compare him to the jay's and nas' when he's at least 10 albums in

When we talk about illmaculate discography with classics at this level with 10 plus albums on Scarface comes to mind. On a more undergroud level Masta Ace and Freddie Gibbs got great solo disco, but they don't have top 50 hip hop albums oat

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Folks, myself included, put Nas under a microscope that no other rapper has to deal with. The standards for him are different than any of his peers. He ain’t never been wack. He’s got two albums in illmatic and IWW that are easily in the best album of all time convo. (I’d put Lost Tapes in there too but I don’t want to get into no technical debate.) He got great records in every era. He’s influenced so many other guys. At 52, he’s still putting on for the culture. Sure, he got some uneven, inconsistent projects but show me someone who is 35 years in the game and 20 albums deep who doesn’t.

 

[InstantKlassik]

You nikkas can say what y’all want about the album..but I put Pause Tapes, Sons and Writers right up there with some of the best stuff from the Hit-Boy run, undeniable records

 

[Cladyclad]

Folks, myself included, put Nas under a microscope that no other rapper has to deal with. The standards for him are different than any of his peers. He ain’t never been wack. He’s got two albums in illmatic and IWW that are easily in the best album of all time convo. (I’d put Lost Tapes in there too but I don’t want to get into no technical debate.) He got great records in every era. He’s influenced so many other guys. At 52, he’s still putting on for the culture. Sure, he got some uneven, inconsistent projects but show me someone who is 35 years in the game and 20 albums deep who doesn’t.

Nas is not under no damn microscope lol

 

[THE 101]

I love what Premo did on this album. The people that have a big problem with it seem to think Premo's work begins and ends with Moment of Truth and the joints he did for Nas, Hov and BIG.

People calling the beats skeletal and unfinished must not have heard his early to mid 90s work. Listen to a lot of them beats on Daily Operation....they're super stripped down and raw.

The album is obviously a love letter to early 90s NYC rap. When was the last time Premo made a beat like Pause Tapes or Git Ready? These are beats that break from the post-Moment of Truth formula Premo been stuck on for years. Writers and It's Time are beautiful songs. I don't get the hate for NYSOM 3...that shyt is menacing and gutter. People need to re-listen to the first one which was this weird off-key beat as well....it's in the spirit of the original. Mfs talking about they wanted Premo to use that Billy Joell loop

No wonder you worship Hit-Boy's middle of the road predictable slop.

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Nas is not under no damn microscope lol