Nas has no fukkin Grammys.

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who is clowning Nas? all I'm saying the nikka is not higher (or lower for the technical fakkits) on the hip hop totem pole than Jay-Z

I listened to both their discographies and stuff and I'd rank Nas higher. I won't get mad if someones say Jay's better because a case can be obviously made, but deciding that because of Jay being more popular or having more money is really iffy and make you seem like a groupie :manny:

Jay's been the more focused business man and managed his image/popularity far better, that's it.
 

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In what alternate universe do you live in that you think Jay Z stands a chance against Nas, song for song?

What boggles the mind is that Jay has been so trash for a while now, yet his fans think they're slick enough to just let that go unnoticed. I mean... just listen to Jay's horrible struggle flows and annoying voice where he's pausing after every other bar. Dude is so trash and has always benefited from manipulating his fans into thinking he's extra nice on the mic. His lyrics are basic, lame and one dimensional. There is no depth to his music. Just a bunch of nonsense to appease his fans who live vicariously through him. It's sad and pathetic.

Take a survey, a poll or whatever method of tallying votes you wish. Nas was, is and will always be the superior talent among Hip Hop fans.

:whoa:

Jay hasn't been trash. He has versatility, wit, great production, and an overall ability to navigate records, over Nas. I wasn't feeling Blueprint 3 very much, but American Gangster was :win: from top to bottom, and he actually performed really well on Watch The Throne, showcasing different sides of himself topically and introspectively. And even Blueprint 3 had some heaters.

I think Nas being the "superior talent" is debatable, but what's just as debatable is Jay-Z having the superior catalog, because in my opinion, he seems much more efficient at putting everything together than Nas is :manny:.

Nas is incredible, too. I think he's the more candid storyteller and scene-setter between them, and even though I think his flow is better than Jay-Z's, I don't think Jay's flow is garbage. But just about everyone - himself included - acknowledges that his production isn't as consistently good as it should be, and that he's had many of his share of faulty attempts at making the types of songs that he isn't good at making.

A lot of people get so caught up in what they feel Jay-Z represents - commercialism - that they let it blind them from how dope he really is. By contrast, a lot of people get so caught up in what they feel Nas *does* represent - "real hip-hop" - that they overlook his faults.

What I don't get is why people always feel like they have to choose between the two of them. Jay-Z and Nas are both Top 5 emcees, IMO. The beef was years ago, and it doesn't have to dictate one being good and one being bad.
 

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Its sad that Nas' lame ass stans thought he was gonna win a grammy for that mediocre ass album.

So it matters when yall think he's gonna win it....but when he loses, the highest accolade in music is "irrelevant." :heh:

You're hands down one of the most pathetic / worst dikkrider on the coli, just sayin :yeshrug:
 
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I listened to both their discographies and stuff and I'd rank Nas higher. I won't get mad if someones say Jay's better because a case can be obviously made, but deciding that because of Jay being more popular or having more money is really iffy and make you seem like a groupie :manny:

Jay's been the more focused business man and managed his image/popularity far better, that's it.

:whoa:

I wasn't trying to make this a money or popularity debate, thats these other nikkas.. I just want to get to the bottom of this Jay lost Nas lost thing. Lyrically I don't think Nas is better than Jay-Z. Even though they are both in my top 5
 

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You're hands down one of the most pathetic / worst dikkrider on the coli, just sayin :yeshrug:

Don't get mad cuz what i'm saying is true.

But go ahead....keep thinking Nas is relevant in 2013

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Don't get mad cuz what i'm saying is true.

But go ahead....keep thinking Nas is relevant in 2013

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You literally go into every fukking nas thread posting the same bullshyt posts :mindblown:

No depth or substance whatsoever.
 

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Even if we did, Nas's discog would come out on top. BP3 alone set Jay way back IMO.

How is that so

Jay was spittin on

What We Talkin bout
Thank You
Run This Town
Empire State of Mind
Star is Born
Already Home


Venus vs Mars was dope

Only wack tracks was
Real as it Gets
So Ambitious
Off That

Im starting to feel like nikkaz jus call BP3 an abomination by the bandwagon effect

Bp3 better than Bp2 and KC and Vol. 3 imo
 

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Don't get mad cuz what i'm saying is true.

But go ahead....keep thinking Nas is relevant in 2013

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relevant to who or what? Like you mean b/c he doesn't get radio/video spins? or because high school kids arent bumping him on the regular? any other criteria you could use to judge him (Grammy noms, critical acclaim, hot mc's list, held in the highest regard among his peers, etc) he has a presence that you would have to blind not to notice. What's your idea of relevancy?
 

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I just had so much laughs trolling Nas fans who really thought he was about to win his first grammy :wow:
 
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