Nas - King’s Disease (Discussion Thread)

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I will actually amend my statement since I fukked that up, I didn’t mean to include the albums where he competed (and won) against Hov. I’m talking about after that, you’re right. 2002 was his last hit. I just don’t get how you win the crown on the mic and then do nothing to compete afterwards. Hov is hyper competitive. In fact Hov is a jerk lol, as many competitive people are. His moves are strategic and meant to score points. I get that Nas isn’t gonna go tit for tat and I don’t blame him. But you gotta give people what they want sometimes. You can’t just “do you” and let the other guy run up the score.

To me that’s the frustrating thing about being a Nas fan. I wanted that Stillmatic focus in 2003, when Hov dropped Black Album, I wanted Nas to do his own statement album, working with the best producers in the game. When Hov retired, I wanted a KONY type album from Nas. That’s just how I think though. And then after LIG...I wanted more albums and working with the new generation of rappers and producers. Maybe Nas wanted to and ran out of time. We know he’s wanted to work with Hit Boy for years...maybe he wanted to do this in 2014-2015.


If you know Nas and really call yourself a fan, you’d know that he cooled out directly after his mother died. Alot of the smoke he had for the rap game at the time was due to the depth of tragedy and drama in his life at the time. His mother diagnosed with cancer, Jay-Z dangling an affair with Carmen over his head, some of the underground QB rappers (Cormega) coming at his neck.

Nas, by all accounts, is one of those kinds of people who goes SCORCHED earth when he’s angry or boxed into a corner. Remember all the shyt that went with that “competition”. Nas trying to hang a Jay-Z robot at Summer Jam, dissing Nore, Camron, and Nelly on Power 105, flirting with signing with Murda Inc, creating the Death Of Escobar album that was gonna diss and expose half the industry (apparently so potent he had to have the songs completely erased so they never leaked)


All that energy was great for us fans, but i’m sure was taxing for him. Not only that but Nas himself is an introverted, low key personality. He shouldn’t force himself to be what he’s not all in the name of competition.


I don’t even know why we still STILL obsessively compare Nas and Jay-Z’s careers like that anyway. They have said it, and everyone AROUND them has said it. They are two different men running different races. They were NEVER similar personalities and never similar artists. They are the two best rappers to ever live, they are from New York, and after that the buck stops.
 

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Good article, although I'm sick of all that metoo bullsh!t. From the article,

He’s lost some of his luster because of Kelis’ abuse allegations, but he’s still in the highest of esteem in many hip-hop circles (which is another story in itself).

The folks that took issue with the Kelis allegations are casual Hip Hop fans anyway. We're talking about rap music for crying out loud. Rap music. Hip Hop music, which is full of gun talk, crews and gangs, dope and fiends, women being objectified and those same birds are capitalizing off of it nowadays. I don't want to hear any critic talk about they love Drill music, but clutch their pearls over Kelis allegations. Been tired of outsiders and casuals trying to influence and be gatekeepers.
 

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If you know Nas and really call yourself a fan, you’d know that he cooled out directly after his mother died. Alot of the smoke he had for the rap game at the time was due to the depth of tragedy and drama in his life at the time. His mother diagnosed with cancer, Jay-Z dangling an affair with Carmen over his head, some of the underground QB rappers (Cormega) coming at his neck.

Nas, by all accounts, is one of those kinds of people who goes SCORCHED earth when he’s angry or boxed into a corner. Remember all the shyt that went with that “competition”. Nas trying to hang a Jay-Z robot at Summer Jam, dissing Nore, Camron, and Nelly on Power 105, flirting with signing with Murda Inc, creating the Death Of Escobar album that was gonna diss and expose half the industry (apparently so potent he had to have the songs completely erased so they never leaked)


All that energy was great for us fans, but i’m sure was taxing for him. Not only that but Nas himself is an introverted, low key personality. He shouldn’t force himself to be what he’s not all in the name of competition.


I don’t even know why we still STILL obsessively compare Nas and Jay-Z’s careers like that anyway. They have said it, and everyone AROUND them has said it. They are two different men running different races. They were NEVER similar personalities and never similar artists. They are the two best rappers to ever live, they are from New York, and after that the buck stops.
Couldn't have said it better myself
 

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If you know Nas and really call yourself a fan, you’d know that he cooled out directly after his mother died. Alot of the smoke he had for the rap game at the time was due to the depth of tragedy and drama in his life at the time. His mother diagnosed with cancer, Jay-Z dangling an affair with Carmen over his head, some of the underground QB rappers (Cormega) coming at his neck.

Nas, by all accounts, is one of those kinds of people who goes SCORCHED earth when he’s angry or boxed into a corner. Remember all the shyt that went with that “competition”. Nas trying to hang a Jay-Z robot at Summer Jam, dissing Nore, Camron, and Nelly on Power 105, flirting with signing with Murda Inc, creating the Death Of Escobar album that was gonna diss and expose half the industry (apparently so potent he had to have the songs completely erased so they never leaked)


All that energy was great for us fans, but i’m sure was taxing for him. Not only that but Nas himself is an introverted, low key personality. He shouldn’t force himself to be what he’s not all in the name of competition.


I don’t even know why we still STILL obsessively compare Nas and Jay-Z’s careers like that anyway. They have said it, and everyone AROUND them has said it. They are two different men running different races. They were NEVER similar personalities and never similar artists. They are the two best rappers to ever live, they are from New York, and after that the buck stops.
I’m not saying he needed to diss anyone or go fire and brimstone on rappers. I’m talking about feeding the streets, giving us anthems, etc. God’s Son has some of that energy despite being written during his mom’s sickness and passing..and it’s a cool album. But after that he went into conceptual mode and lost that drive, to me at least.
 

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Not universal. There was nothing wrong with the production on LT2. And LIG was fire all thruout. So. Aside from Nasir which isn’t even as bad as people make it. What’s the problem?
He got It in him but wont give it to us.. no homo
 

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lmao... dude's acting like Jay's been dropping God-tier rhymes over classic beats. 99% of his verses are forgettable nowadays. He's getting by on decent delivery of above average rhymes over good (not great) production. Nothing more, nothing less.

And with all the critique Nas gets from some people, his catalogue remains the GOAT.
 
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