Nas - King's Disease II (Discussion Thread)

[blazn101]

Cool to see the younger generation get put on to Nas.
And understand what he is trying to teach.

 

[Prolific_1011]

Yea some of Nas albums are prevented from being str8 classics because of like 1 or 2 just average songs, usually the singles when he tries to be too radio friendly or commerical.....he usually fails......originally on Stillmatic when Braveheart party was on there that 1 song prevented it from being 5 mics. Now that it was taken off I think more highly of it and rank it higher in Nas catalogue.

On God's son it was Zone out......etc.....on LIG it was Summer on Smash........ KD2 it's YKTV.....

For some reason Nas always fails at the singles.....but the rest of the album cuts are usually 4/5 or 5/5

Even RD and BP1 have average/wack songs (see Hola Hovita), but only Nas (for some reason) has to have 100% perfect, flawless tracks for an album to be considered classic. The fact that someone like Vlad used 1 song as an example (Nas is Coming) from a legit classic album is proof of that.

 

[Artfull Dodger]

Don't bring them in here

True we dont want the bad energy

Spoiler

though its true

 

[Budda]

Jay has GOT to regret the day he decided to call out Nas. Their legacies would be EXTREMELY individualized if that battle never happened

Jayz wanted his legacy linked to Nas, don’t get it twisted.

 

[Slim Charles]

Even RD and BP1 have average/wack songs (see Hola Hovita), but only Nas (for some reason) has to have 100% perfect, flawless tracks for an album to be considered classic. The fact that someone like Vlad used 1 song as an example (Nas is Coming) from a legit classic album is proof of that.

Exactly. I don’t really care if there’s one or two average songs. Some of the greatest albums of all time across all genres have the odd weak joint.

we’d have to remove classic status off Ready to Die for the original one more chance to me if we’re being picky like that.

 

[Ziggiy]

Jayz wanted his legacy linked to Nas, don’t get it twisted.

He wanted it linked to Nas as the VICTOR and SUPERIOR MC. Don’t get THAT twisted.


Nas proved him wrong and now they both have to exist in this weird career purgatory where they will forever be synonymous with one another. Jay went from wanting to be accepted as Nas equal and peer to wanting to crush him to show he was “The Man”. Now there will ALWAYS be doubt of Jay’s undisputed GOATNESS because he simply can’t be THE goat when Nas exists.

 

[JustCKing]

Even RD and BP1 have average/wack songs (see Hola Hovita), but only Nas (for some reason) has to have 100% perfect, flawless tracks for an album to be considered classic. The fact that someone like Vlad used 1 song as an example (Nas is Coming) from a legit classic album is proof of that.

Personally, I view"Hola Hovito" and "Nas Is Coming" in the same light. Both are produced by super producers that stick out near the middle of the album. Neither song is wack IMO, but there are better songs on the respective albums. Both are bottom tier songs on the respective albums. They are dope as standalone songs. Like if they weren't on classic albums, they would shine, but because most of the other songs are perfect or near perfect, they come off worse than they actually are.

 

[Ball]

Zone Out was an album cut not a single.


And Nas has had dope singles with contemporary producers ranging from Polow Da Don (Hero) to Will I Am (Can’t Forget About You)

People thought hero beat was too commercial. But damn the shyt he spitting over it is just nuts

 

[Ziggiy]

Even RD and BP1 have average/wack songs (see Hola Hovita), but only Nas (for some reason) has to have 100% perfect, flawless tracks for an album to be considered classic. The fact that someone like Vlad used 1 song as an example (Nas is Coming) from a legit classic album is proof of that.

RD and BP1 have average songs but when the HELL did Hola Hovito become one of them?!!? That song SLAPS

 

[Icewatermetallik]

Even RD and BP1 have average/wack songs (see Hola Hovita), but only Nas (for some reason) has to have 100% perfect, flawless tracks for an album to be considered classic. The fact that someone like Vlad used 1 song as an example (Nas is Coming) from a legit classic album is proof of that.

Word I agree BP1 did have 1 or 2 songs I wasn't feelin, like Hola Hovito, but it's still considered a classic and probably Jay's second best album next to RD and The Black album which is third. Black Album even has 1 or 2 filler songs also like Change clothes and Justify my Thug.....but is also still considered a classic.

I think the difference is that we KNOW Nas can still make classics........but can Jay? I don't think Jay could make an album like KD2......

 

[kes929]

Nas Catalouge is absolutely insane. If you look at albums, unreleased songs, features. Man its hard to top

 

[Piff Perkins]

These old dudes grumbling about beats really looking funny in the light. The reaction to this album has been incredibly positive, this is the shyt a lot of people wanted from Nas. Even the Hovavengers (Budden, Rory, Mal, Elliot Wilson) have heaped praise on this album; all them loved the first one too. Pete Rock and these other dudes sounding real old and corny right now. I’m not gonna expect a 50yo+ dude to like a trap beat but…you can’t appreciate the beat on Nobody?

Dream Hampton prob fukks with this album lmao. If you hating because it’s not “the essence” you look crazy.

 

[Ziggiy]

These old dudes grumbling about beats really looking funny in the light. The reaction to this album has been incredibly positive, this is the shyt a lot of people wanted from Nas. Even the Hovavengers (Budden, Rory, Mal, Elliot Wilson) have heaped praise on this album; all them loved the first one too. Pete Rock and these other dudes sounding real old and corny right now. I’m not gonna expect a 50yo+ dude to like a trap beat but…you can’t appreciate the beat on Nobody?

Dream Hampton prob fukks with this album lmao. If you hating because it’s not “the essence” you look crazy.

The Hovengers

 

[spliz]

RD and BP1 have average songs but when the HELL did Hola Hovito become one of them?!!? That song SLAPS

Doesnt really fit with the rest of the project.

 

[Ball]

Word I agree BP1 did have 1 or 2 songs I wasn't feelin, like Hola Hovito, but it's still considered a classic and probably Jay's second best album next to RD and The Black album which is third. Black Album even has 1 or 2 filler songs also like Change clothes and Justify my Thug.....but is also still considered a classic.

I think the difference is that we KNOW Nas can still make classics........but can Jay? I don't think Jay could make an album like KD2......

while Jay has better “commercial” songs, he can’t make a song like the cure or rare. He just doesn’t come off as authentic enough for those kinds of real verses imo