Nas' Oochie Wally beat originally belonged to Royal Flush

[nieman]

Oochie Wally beat is so fukking flames I’m surprised anybody would pass on it.

I don't think anyone knew what to do with it. Is it grimey, is it a radio track? How to approach it.

You approach it like a single, and you'll sound like Nas, all out of place on it.

A lot of people didn't like Oochie Wally as a song at first, but it grew on them. The Internet reviews was killing it back then

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Who the fukk is royal flush and why am I supposed to care?

Rapper from Queens who had a really good album (ghetto millionaire)

Unfortunately he doesn't make horrorcore music though

 

[Neuromancer]

It would've made a difference to our ears tho

Doubtful no one cared about Flush back then.

 

[African Peasant]

Doubtful no one cared about Flush back then.

I loved his first album and still play it, despite most people not knowing about it. People caring or not does not matter to the listener.

 

[nieman]

Doubtful no one cared about Flush back then.

Everyone who heard Ghetto Millionaire has loved it, and for me it still gets regular play. He had people checking for him back then. Hell, he had like a 3-page article in The Source, not one of the half-page write-ups.

He's always been a dope MC, and pops up seemingly everywhere for those that are fans of that gritty sound. Flush is respected in the industry, and has songs with almost everyone in that tier.

 

[Neuromancer]

I loved his first album and still play it, despite most people not knowing about it. People caring or not does not matter to the listener.

And the listeners opinion doesn't matter to the people.

 

[Neuromancer]

Everyone who heard Ghetto Millionaire has loved it, and for me it still gets regular play. He had people checking for him back then. Hell, he had like a 3-page article in The Source, not one of the half-page write-ups.

He's always been a dope MC, and pops up seemingly everywhere for those that are fans of that gritty sound. Flush is respected in the industry, and has songs with almost everyone in that tier.

How come it seems like most people didn't hear it?

 

[African Peasant]

And the listeners opinion doesn't matter to the people.

No one's opinions on things that already done matter. We just talking.

 

[Neuromancer]

No one's opinions on things that already done matter. We just talking.

Big facts.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

How come it seems like most people didn't hear it?

Because it came out on a bullshyt low-budget indie label (TVT/Blunt Recordings). Flush is one of my favorite MCs, but he's never been one of those rappers hungry for the limelight. He got put on via his Mic Geronimo and Irv Gotti associations. But he's still putting out dope material. He dropped that posthumous collabo album with Sean Price (R.I.P!!) last year.


Flush songs getting the beat snatched and reused for other rappers seems to be a recurring theme in this man's career. Pete Rock reused "Questions" that Royal Flush recorded for Pete's album and let Raekwon use it for "Sonny's Missing" off of OB4CL 2.

Buckwild reused the intro track from Ghetto Millionaire, "I Been Gettin' So Much $", for O.C. on "Burn Me Slow" for his "Still Diggin' EP".

And I first heard the sample for Monica's "So Gone" off an unreleased track from Flush called "Section 8". He was also one of the first, if not the first person I heard rap over Gil-Scot Heron's "Angel Dust" sample on an unreleased track he did with Mic Geronimo.

*edit* Also forgot that Chinx Drugs and French Montana used the beat/sample for "Worldwide" from Flush on "I'm a Coke Boy".


Having a bigger name artist rap over a track you originally recorded can make or break an artist's career (See Ras Kass and Jadakiss "Home Sweet Home/We Gon Make It for reference).

 

[Neuromancer]

But he's still putting out dope material. He dropped that posthumous collabo album with Sean Price (R.I.P!

This is how I heard about him. P! Is one of my favorite emcees

 

[nieman]

How come it seems like most people didn't hear it?

It came out in '97, when the sound was changing and he had no label to really push him. If you were watching Rap City, you saw Iced Down Medallions video, and even if you loved that song/video you still had to be deeply tuned in to know when the album was dropping.

Overall, he got lost in the shuffle, and yet every person that heard the album ever, loves it. There's a couple of threads here on it.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

It came out in '97, when the sound was changing and he had no label to really push him. If you were watching Rap City, you saw Iced Down Medallions video, and even if you loved that song/video you still had to be deeply tuned in to know when the album was dropping.

Overall, he got lost in the shuffle, and yet every person that heard the album ever, loves it. There's a couple of threads here on it.

Ghetto Millionaire to me is like an underground/indie equivalent of Illmatic. A dope ass MC from Queens making a NY hardcore street album in the 90s, with multiple notable top level East Coast producers of that underground era (Buckwild, Da Beatminerz, L.E.S., DJ Hi-Tek, EZ Elpee).

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

This is how I heard about him. P! Is one of my favorite emcees

Same here for P. Basically all I've listened to for the past 5 or 6 months hip-hop wise is Sean Price. I've always been a fan since BCC is my favorite crew, but I been on a major P binge since the summer. His work ethic with writing was crazy, he's still got a ton of verses I haven't even heard yet and I'm one of the biggest Sean Price stans on the planet.

 

[Yehuda]

His hook is cornier but his bars > "holla out the window it's the project nympho"