Nas vs Jay-z THE WAR WILL NEVER END lmao. New battle for casino rights in NYC, who will get it? Billions at stake

[Robbie3000]

inndaskKy said:


It's sad to see all these entertainers and athletes selling their souls to the gambling wave and pushing the poison on the youth while promoting themselves as so-called role models for living a successful life.

@inndaskKy

This is a powerful quote props. Nas said he would never sell liquor or push poison. Well money ends up talking but you are right.

These dudes could be selling healthy lifestyles or different outlets for people. It's all drink money and dirty money but whatever lol

I don’t think Nas and Jay are influencing the youth.

I get your concern in all seriousness, but people will always have an appetite for certain vices. It’s just human nature. Better to legalize and tax it than have the criminal world run it.

 

[Knucklehead]

Let’s be reality here.
Jay-Z and Nas involvement in these projects would much more accurately be described as “celebrity spokesman” than “partner”.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

I don’t think Nas and Jay are influencing the youth.

I get your concern in all seriousness, but people will always have an appetite for certain vices. It’s just human nature. Better to legalize and tax it than have the criminal world run it.

I can understand that but today youth are even wilder and more impressionable. That's no excuse.

Jay has a lot of the youth looking at him like the ultimate so all that crack dealing, hustling, money over everything gangster lifestyle he sells and still sells. Is mad influential. Do you remember what influenced or persuaded you to smoke or drink some henny? It was the damn rappers! lol.

Nas is less about that life portrayal but he is still selling liquor with the Hennessy ambassador move and now gambling. I remember MTV Diary of video where he was driving in a car telling his agent/manager do not bring him no liquor deals he does not want to sell that to the children. He has matured a different angle since but at the same time some rappers can sell Ice-Cream or Fizzy drinks just put less pressure on the impressionable youth.

Let’s be reality here.
Jay-Z and Nas involvement in these projects would much more accurately be described as “celebrity spokesman” than “partner”.

That's most of Jay's deals. He will be a glorified spokesperson for Tiffany Diamonds, NFL, NETS, not that he doesn't get busy on his own but he does not make the lions share on most of his endeavors. Although there is no details on the contract and numbers mere speculation. I think the future is so bright for the youth in the culture.

 

[Ziggiy]

Let’s be reality here.
Jay-Z and Nas involvement in these projects would much more accurately be described as “celebrity spokesman” than “partner”.

You’ve done no research on the topic whatsoever have you?

 

[Supa]

inndaskKy said:


It's sad to see all these entertainers and athletes selling their souls to the gambling wave and pushing the poison on the youth while promoting themselves as so-called role models for living a successful life.

@inndaskKy

This is a powerful quote props. Nas said he would never sell liquor or push poison. Well money ends up talking but you are right.

These dudes could be selling healthy lifestyles or different outlets for people. It's all drink money and dirty money but whatever lol

You gotta be 21 to gamble and drink. That's not the youth.

If you drink and endorse liquor how is that "pushing poison?" People have agency to make their own decisions. If you can't drink or gamble responsibly that's on you. I won't be going to any casinos in NYC.

The bigger issue would be the effect these real estate projects have on the economics of the community and guys like Nas and Jay being used to sell false hopes to the people living nearby. The Nets used Jay for the marketing of Barclays and people protested its construction because it would raise rent in the area. I'm not sure where I'm Queens this casino will be but Nas might be in that same Barclays situation and that's fair grounds for criticism.

I don't think any casinos should be near residential areas. Put them in Times Square or other business districts.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

You gotta be 21 to gamble and drink. That's not the youth.

If you drink and endorse liquor how is that "pushing poison?" People have agency to make their own decisions. If you can't drink or gamble responsibly that's on you. I won't be going to any casinos in NYC.

The bigger issue would be the effect these real estate projects have on the economics of the community and guys like Nas and Jay being used to sell false hopes to the people living nearby. The Nets used Jay for the marketing of Barclays and people protested its construction because it would raise rent in the area. I'm not sure where I'm Queens this casino will be but Nas might be in that same Barclays situation and that's fair grounds for criticism.

I don't think any casinos should be near residential areas. Put them in Times Square or other business districts.

I forgot that math you are right.

Some countries it's 18 to drink and even still the little tearaways will find a way because it is glamorized. 100% you're right on the gambling no kids anyway.

As for the Nas project you have valid reasons to be concerned but may I just say that the intention with the Nas joint is to create more jobs locally with the hotel complex they are setting up, venue and etc. They said Nas is a "community partner" I hope that is not a slight of hand word trickery. It looks good for Queens if what they are saying is true.

The expansion is a significant economic development initiative for Queens, with a focus on creating jobs and opportunities within the community.

Like the golden boy story, for both Nas and Jay.

 

[Knucklehead]

You’ve done no research on the topic whatsoever have you?

What type of ownership stake do you think either will have in these casinos?
What do you think it is that Jay-Z or Nas has to offer the ownership groups who operate casinos around the world besides what I said, celebrity spokesman?

 

[Supa]

I forgot that math you are right.

Some countries it's 18 to drink and even still the little tearaways will find a way because it is glamorized. 100% you're right on the gambling no kids anyway.

As for the Nas project you have valid reasons to be concerned but may I just say that the intention with the Nas joint is to create more jobs locally with the hotel complex they are setting up, venue and etc. They said Nas is a "community partner" I hope that is not a slight of hand word trickery. It looks good for Queens if what they are saying is true.



Like the golden boy story, for both Nas and Jay.

That's the same BS marketing the Nets used with Jay:

They know the locals are going to have a problem with these real estate projects so to smooth things over they grab a local hero to tell the people everything's going to be okay and there's jobs on the way. You might land a job but your rent will go up so high that you won't be able to live there anymore.

If that Queens casino is near QB, Long Island City, or any residential area it will do more harm than good.

This is good for the investors' portfolios not the people. It's capitalism.

 

[Robbie3000]

That's the same BS marketing the Nets used with Jay:

They know the locals are going to have a problem with these real estate projects so to smooth things over they grab a local hero to tell the people everything's going to be okay and there's jobs on the way. You might land a job but your rent will go up so high that you won't be able to live there anymore.

If that Queens casino is near QB, Long Island City, or any residential area it will do more harm than good.

This is good for the investors' portfolios not the people. It's capitalism.

Y’all just be saying anything. How did you come to the conclusion that it will do more harm than good?

 

[BlackDiBiase]

That's the same BS marketing the Nets used with Jay:

They know the locals are going to have a problem with these real estate projects so to smooth things over they grab a local hero to tell the people everything's going to be okay and there's jobs on the way. You might land a job but your rent will go up so high that you won't be able to live there anymore.

If that Queens casino is near QB, Long Island City, or any residential area it will do more harm than good.

This is good for the investors' portfolios not the people. It's capitalism.

Oh sh1t.

If they do something like that with this Queens project they have all legislation to try to minimize or stop any unwanted community problems.

I truly believe in Nas's portfolio I've seen a couple of those brothers on his team. They look like they are about building positivity for the culture and community. We know Nas is that way inclined too. I don't know man I dont gamble I think it is a sin but that's just me so I am just pleased Nas and Jay and them are providing inspiration. Let's hope it doesn't go sour.

 

[Supa]

Y’all just be saying anything. How did you come to the conclusion that it will do more harm than good?

Do you live in NY? I do and I know all the fuss that's made when these things happen

There's always damage done by these large real estate projects.

There's protests going on right now about putting the casinos in Times Square because it will negatively effect the theater industry on Broadway.

There were protests a few years ago when they tried to get a casino in Queens near the Mets stadium.

Why do you think we don't we don't Walmart in NYC? They would destroy the small businesses here so all their attempts to build one get blocked.

Maybe do some research.

 

[Mike Ock]

That's the same BS marketing the Nets used with Jay:

They know the locals are going to have a problem with these real estate projects so to smooth things over they grab a local hero to tell the people everything's going to be okay and there's jobs on the way. You might land a job but your rent will go up so high that you won't be able to live there anymore.

If that Queens casino is near QB, Long Island City, or any residential area it will do more harm than good.

This is good for the investors' portfolios not the people. It's capitalism.

1. The casino will not be near QB or LIC.
2. It will be just adding on to an already existing casino on the other side of Queens at a rave track thats set to close down next year.
3. It will create more jobs and possibly help other businesses in the area with the new foot trafffic.

 

[Awesome Wells]

What type of ownership stake do you think either will have in these casinos?
What do you think it is that Jay-Z or Nas has to offer the ownership groups who operate casinos around the world besides what I said, celebrity spokesman?

Jay's bid is coming through Roc Nation.

Dude is worth $2.5 billion now. He's officially the wealthiest musician in the WORLD. His bid to secure the gaming license was through the company. It's not just a "celebrity endorsement". He's the one who spearheaded this with the gaming firms. He has the political backing, the capital and the infrastructure to make this the second black-owned casino in the country's history.

 

[Knucklehead]

Jay's bid is coming through Roc Nation.

Dude is worth $2.5 billion now. He's officially the wealthiest musician in the WORLD. His bid to secure the gaming license was through the company. It's not just a "celebrity endorsement". He's the one who spearheaded this with the gaming firms. He has the political backing, the capital and the infrastructure to make this the second black-owned casino in the country's history.

I’m sorry this just isn’t right.
It’s a partnership between a huge real estate developer, Caesar’s who would get the license and Roc Nation. Calling him a celebrity spokesman is minimizing his role for sure but it’s more accurate than saying it’s him getting the license.
For the record I’m a huge Jay-Z and Nas fan and am happy they’re both at the level to be involved in these types of projects but both their involvements are wildly overstated in many clickbait media reports

 

[Awesome Wells]

I’m sorry this just isn’t right.
It’s a partnership between a huge real estate developer, Caesar’s who would get the license and Roc Nation. Calling him a celebrity spokesman is minimizing his role for sure but it’s more accurate than saying it’s him getting the license.
For the record I’m a huge Jay-Z and Nas fan and am happy they’re both at the level to be involved in these types of projects but both their involvements are wildly overstated in many clickbait media reports

Jay's involvement isn't overstated, at all.

He's been trying to do this with mad different people for close to 10 years, in various locations. He's not just some average rapper. He's literally more connected than probably any other artist in music. And already manages something like a couple of billion dollars in contracts through Roc Nation and another like 500 million, he said, in media deals.

These are the types of move he's been making for a minute. He's more than just a "celebrity" or rapper. That should be more than obvious by now. Bro's business acumen is on full display in his numbers and successes. Dudes can't minimize that type of motion. He's working on an entirely different level, these days.