Native Tongues have more classics than Wu-Tang, Deathrow or any other crew

[kingofnyc]

You smokin' highgrade.

yall new nikkaz....
i remember when shyt drop'd in '95

it got average reviews
no hit singles off da LP (billboard/charts)
not even a top 10 album in its year

the only thing people remember about that LP was
the 'new york new york' song/vid

 

[dizzy4111]

Not more than the Wu but it's arguable imo.

 

[FreshAIG]

tribe is my favorite group of all time but i'd safely say 2 classic

in no world does de la have 3 classics

you're being very liberal with the term UNIVERSAL classics

They have 3, there's no argument about Tribe first three albums being classic. There's no reason to even further have a discussion if you're trying to argue that. and I already said De La has 2 and an arguable third later in the thread. Read the full thread before you comment. I already stated NT has 6 albums (trouble 3, de la 2, JB 1) that are universal classics, Wu has 5 (36, Forever, LS, SC, Only).

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Yes I would and most people that know their history would. The culture changed so much since those albums dropped that those albums don't hold the same stature as those mid 90s albums because the Jungle Bros and Black Sheep aren't revered like the others. But that has nothing to do with impact and quality. It has to do with them just not being mentioned anymore. Once gangster rap came into the forefront most artists that had their style, fell off. De La and Tribe continued to proposer in that time because they were more elite artists. But the lack of recognition that period of rap gets now, has way more to do with the culture shift then it has to do with anything else. People educated in the culture would most certainly put those two albums in the classic category. Specifically the Jungle Bros album which made a huge impact the time it dropped. The impact of those albums aren't championed like the others because that era of rap is largely forgotten but no Jungle Bros album and no Tribe Calles Quest because they laid the blueprint and introduced the world to them. Q-Tip himself will say that.

Lmao at blacksheep's album meaning anything ever. Huge impact? lmao
Jungle brothers were never top shelf either

 

[FreshAIG]

We need an age check before some of you nikkas enter this discussion btw. If you're like 25, stfu and get out the thread.

 

[FreshAIG]

Lmao at blacksheep's album meaning anything ever. Huge impact? lmao
Jungle brothers were never top shelf either

This literally shows you have no clue what you're talking about. Jungle Bros introduced a Tribe Called Quest into the world and created a style that they and De La and a slew of other artists from that era followed. That Afro-centric/pro black style from the late 80s-early 90s comes from Jungle Bros first album. Ask any artists from that era, that followed that trend and they will tell you as such. Black Sheep didn't have nearly that kinda impact but their debut made a big mark on the culture. If you don't know your history don't come in this thread. You sound wild stupid.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

nikkas get albums they liked confused with certified classics.
nikkas get mad when i say you cant match up
the infamous and illmatic
withe RTD and the chronic.
I think the infamous is flames,illmatic,not so much
But neither like RTD and the chronic.
Cant compare 2 albums that ran the east coast streets to two albums that has street appeal and crossed over.
Especially when you fags only do that for east coast albums

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

We need an age check before some of you nikkas enter this discussion btw. If you're like 25, stfu and get out the thread.

36 if youre referring to me

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

This literally shows you have no clue what you're talking about. Jungle Bros introduced a Tribe Called Quest into the world and created a style that they and De La and a slew of other artists from that era followed. That Afro-centric/pro black style from the late 80s-early 90s comes from Jungle Bros first album. Ask any artists from that era, that followed that trend and they will tell you as such. Black Sheep didn't have nearly that kinda impact but their debut made a big mark on the culture. If you don't know you're history don't come in this thread. You sound wild stupid.

I'm not debating if they influenced tribe. I said they werent top shelf ever ,meaning at no moment were they the face of hiphop on a street or commercial level

 

[FreshAIG]

Again we're trying to do this subjectively right? I produced a list from one of raps most reputable publications at the time of the list, that had EIGHT Native Tongues albums in their best 100 albums of all-time.

Can one of y'all produce me one list from anywhere that has 8 Wu albums or 8 Death Row albums in top 100 rap albums ever list and I'll concede. Y'all aren't providing anything but what YOU PERSONALLY feel with no facts to back it up. Half you nikkas don't even know your history.

 

[FreshAIG]

I'm not debating if they influenced tribe. I said they werent top shelf ever ,meaning at no moment were they the face of hiphop on a street or commercial level

What in the world does that have to do with anything? They made a major impact when they dropped, their debut album was basically the blueprint to Tribe and De La's style. That's like saying James Worthy isn't impactful because he was never the best player in the NBA even though Kobe himself said he patterned a lot of his style from him. Come on man. The most popular rappers aren't the only ones that can change and impact culture. Esham had no mainstream recognition but arguably the biggest rapper of all-time patterned a lot of his style from him.

 

[Taadow]

yall new nikkaz....
i remember when shyt drop'd in '95

it got average reviews
no hit singles off da LP (billboard/charts)
not even a top 10 album in its year

the only thing people remember about that LP was
the 'new york new york' song/vid

Naw, I was there too nicca...

- as you say, people remember "New York New York" not just because of the video,
but because Big dropped the St. Ides commercial spittin' to that beat.

- niccas know "Let's Play House".

- niccas know "Big Pimpin' 2", because they loved the original one off the Above The Rim soundtrack.

- folks knew about "Dogg Pound Gangstaz" because Kurupt that line in there dissin' Bone.

- if you say "cyco like no bytch ass niccas..." then everybody listening to rap could finish that line.

- there was a group down south some time after that did their own version of "If We All Fucc..."

- you can still hear "Some Bomb Azz Puccy" in the strip club to this day.



So iono what the hell you talmbat...

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Jungle brother? yea ok

 

[Taadow]

This literally shows you have no clue what you're talking about. Jungle Bros introduced a Tribe Called Quest into the world and created a style that they and De La and a slew of other artists from that era followed. That Afro-centric/pro black style from the late 80s-early 90s comes from Jungle Bros first album. Ask any artists from that era, that followed that trend and they will tell you as such. Black Sheep didn't have nearly that kinda impact but their debut made a big mark on the culture. If you don't know you're history don't come in this thread. You sound wild stupid.

Jungle Brothers name and cache mean more than their actual music does.
Like you say, they gave niccas a style to run with...that doesn't mean their chit is classic.

 

[FreshAIG]

Jungle brother? yea ok

Completely irrelevant to the argument. Come on man. If you're going to debate use logic, no corny pics man. You're smart.