Naughty By Nature doesn't get the respect they deserve....

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

yo wickedest man alive is one of those songs you wont like until you hear it for like the 4th and 5th time.but now its one of my favorite cuts. what was the guys name who did the piano loops on opp and thankx for sleeplwalking. i think his name was dave

Yep, laid back reggae beat. Treach destroyed that.

 

[AVXL]

Vinny Rock

Get that Mike Tyson lookin muthafukka all the way up outta here

 

[BXKingPin82]

Them brothers had so many hits in the 90s its AMAZING how muthafukkas forgot about them

 

[Majestic Pape]

history has a way of dealing with corny acts accordingly.

what does that have to do with naughty by nature tho???

 

[Ziploc]

Craziest,Feel me flow,It's on,Chain remains,Mourn you till i join you,Hang out and hustle,Connections...Treach is so slept on it's ridiculous..

 

[Brady-Carter]

^^^classic fukkin track...

NBN always made great feel good music...

All time great record..

+Dap +Rep

 

[RAX 010]

 

[feelosofer]

That's dope brother. Musta been cool to be around that scene at the time.

I really like their first 4 albums. Treach wasn't spitting as furious on the 4th album, but there are some classics on there, and Kay Gee's production was still evolving and really good on there.

Yup he still does work to this day, but it was cool, I was in middle/high school in the mid-late 80s and it was a great distraction for me, especially with the heavy gang activity, growing up seeing people who would become greats like Naughty by Nature, the Queen and Dana Dane, and even met Tribe in my first forays into the scene, and I went into media work as a result initially, just for the free music and performances. I count myself very fortunate to have that.

 

[DANJ!]

Naughty is kinda like a few other early 90s groups that came out with thunder,but eventually just kinda settled in as a good group in a huge pool of talent. I also think of Das EFX, Cypress Hill, Onyx... groups that just smashed the boards that first year and had mad people bitin' their shyt and all that, stayed in their spot from that point on while newer artists were coming thru and making bigger impact. By the time '94-'95 had rolled around, there was just great music comin' from all directions, so they didn't stand out as much. They were def. consistent tho' and Treach is severely underrated for being one of the dopest nikkas out at one point.

 

[Wacky D]

Naughty is kinda like a few other early 90s groups that came out with thunder,but eventually just kinda settled in as a good group in a huge pool of talent. I also think of Das EFX, Cypress Hill, Onyx... groups that just smashed the boards that first year and had mad people bitin' their shyt and all that, stayed in their spot from that point on while newer artists were coming thru and making bigger impact. By the time '94-'95 had rolled around, there was just great music comin' from all directions, so they didn't stand out as much. They were def. consistent tho' and Treach is severely underrated for being one of the dopest nikkas out at one point.

progression. 2 or 3 albums, 3 or 5 years. thats pretty much standard.

besides, poverty's paradise won "the coveted" grammy for '95.

now lets bring in the mid '90s guys

 

[*L*E*G*A*C*Y*]

This been my joint...

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Treach goes in on the alliteration at 1:24

Too bad the whole album wasn't like this track. I hadn't heard it until I copped the album and was like.....................then listened to the rest and was like................

How you gon' come out with a banger for the first track and the rest is barely mediocre..........?

I give him props for reppin' Jersey, but El da Sensei, Tame One, Heather B and Redman did it better, more consistently, and didn't have to front about who they were.​

 

[BigF]

notice you said several cuts over three albums.
real talk, other than yoke the joker, and uptown anthem.

what other nbn records show that treach was that nasty past his sweetspot in the styles era.

if he was so great it would be more records.
plus, his technical skills would have ramped up to move into transitioning to other era's with differing sonic landscapes.

big mel brought up das efx...
who real talk,...made damn near flawless albums with the diggety style.
then, damn near made a near flawless album.
rapping regular right after that to squelch naysayers, on straight up sewaside.

treach never did that, and neither did chip fu.

so, i don't give either one great credit outside of ring the alarm, and uptown anthem.

if you want to make an even further comparison from the transisiton from styles era to later on.

BUSTA RHYMES : argueably the end all be all best styles rapper, ever

TWISTA : was dissed by treach, and still made better lp's from his debut to the current day.
that are used as the rubrick of damn near any record on the radio in any genre.
from content to production, and performance, right now.

common : one of the best styles era rappers. with one of the best wordsmithing discographies in the history of rap.

method man : one of argueably the best styles era based rappers, and technically proficient and superior rappers ever, in any category.

redman : argueably the best styles era rapper

b real : argueably at one time the best rapper in the game in the time the selftitled cypress dropped, to devil's niht, to black sunday

kool g rap : became argueably one of the most technically skilled in rap. plus, the most skilled technical base for a gangsta rapper in the history of rap

krs : the first completely versatile emcee that ushered in the new school way of thought solidly with the slow flow and versatility to the style era

rakim : it is no words to describe, what he was.....just, damn...

cam : one of the worst offkey submission flagship rappers originally, ever. to one of the best slow flow based emcees in rap history

DMX : completely a styles based era rapper who released a styles based era rap album. three years after the styles based era was argueably done and still took over the game!

mase : i hate the dude for selling out,..yet, he still transistioned originally. while argueably being one of the most anticipated styles based era emcee's in rap history who was unsigned.

ll cool j : the boy king went from oldschool way of thought king of ny, at the age of 15/16 years old.
to argueably the next best emcee in the history of the skill of vocal tonality, EVER.
also,...ll bit treach on 14 shots to the dome on numerous occassions.
where it is not spoke on. yet, still made a better submission on 14 shots to the dome.
plus, ramped up to the next best slow flow in the history of rap all time on the exact same album on the original pink cookies in a plastic bag, over the same loop marley used for kane's ain't no half stepping. just to show the comparison and leap in skills.
on some marley made another kane shyt.

grand puba : argueably, had a time where you could say he was the best in the game.
to revolutionizing the game in the styles era, and then the soon to come cultural submission. that would be taken out of context later and titled jiggy on 2ooo.
argueably, the best ghostwriter for a female rapper, EVER!

lord finesse : the styles based era emcee, who argueably ushered in rap's technical skill revolution in the styles era

POS : was all styles to concrete technical skill gawd

tru : was all style to a great addition to pos and bumped up clarity on stakes is high

juju : went from one syllable hardcore bboy gangsta styles based era producer/emcee.
to argueably the best technical based rapper who is a producer first.

diamond D : best ramped up producer on the mic in the history of rap

percee p : dude had no album and came from the styles era and still murdered when he finally put out an
album, some ten plus years later after yes you may.

ZEB LOVE X /DOOM : rap prodigy turned slow flow underground cult followed emcee

ghostface : on of the best ramped up formerly horrifically offkey rappers in history. to slow flow mixed with greatest range of emotion emcees, ever.

raekwon : greatest ramped up lesser skilled group member rapper turned gangsta rap revolutionary solo slow flow rapper in the history of all rap.
everyone in rap at that one time took some portion of his dna and ran with it.

GZA : just a genius

KANE : even kane eventually ramped up, from falling off.

imani + fatlip: made the longest drawing styles based era rap record ever.
then, ramped up to a change in revolutionary sonic landscape change style production, and still overly excelled on labcabin.

ACEYALONE : made classics as a group on the debut, fellowship record, to whom it may concern. then, followed it up with a perfect classic on all balls don't bounce.
then, with the definitive emo classic on book of human language. while, damn near singlehandidly holding the trump card over any emcee when it comes to styles.

MASTA ASE : made the prophetic and definitive copied perfect content classic lp's in the styles era, and after on in disposable arts.



just off the top of my head, without much thought.
made classics, and ramped up in skill to different sonic landscapes from the styles era to the conversational slow flow based era's.

rappers like these made transition,....
why did treach not make that transition.
plus, he never made any near perfect albums, during the styles era.
which is when it should hav occurred because it was his only sweet spot.
plus, most of the people i listed made perfect classics, to classics consistently in both era's.
treach was not that dope, breh.

he was a good novelty emcee, who took advantage of one syllable based rhymes in the styles era.
with high speed boombap bpm's to hide his weaknesses.

past that, he was not much else and if he was.
he would have more than one record i could say i thought was the end all be all.
past, uptown anthem,...i would not be caught dead listening to treach.

not to mention, real talk....
d2thaS, destroyed dude, and if he was so talented.
he would have had some reply that was up to snuff.

treach, was outta there after the d2thaS, hemophiliac rhyme,...dead/done.

as a matter of fact, dude was done from yz, too.
treach, was just a more skilled commercial rapper, but past that.
treach was not on a damn thing without high speed commercial boombap bpm's to hide his weaknesses.





art barr

Art Barr dropped some science here.

Stick to this breh. You've been rambling recently.

 

[Termin]

Touring around today with the new kids on the block probably doesn't help...

 

[Newportbox]

Naughty By Nature's crime is that they are from NJ. The NYC media machine does not push their legacy like "one of their own".
Redman, Queen Latifah, Naughty, the entire Flava Unit all get overlooked.