NBA as we know it.. Is done

[Greenstrings]

You think loopholes and stuff were used to cook every team's books? It doesn't take an internal investigation to figure out how teams don't make money. It would take a lot of corruption to hide that lie just to NOT play games that (with supposed loopholes) make you money anyway.

Not if that corruption is built into the complexities of the system and can be legitimized. You are hugely underestimating the extent to which this is common practice.
For better or worse exploiting loopholes isn't seen as cooking the books, it's just another tool organizations can use to appear as robust or infirm as they think best suits their interests. That being said whether or not they lost money is immaterial if the league on the whole is still profitable, the thing to take away is that owners desire better profit margins.

The owners know they stand to save more money in the long run by suppressing player salaries than they would have gained from those missed games and that lie/untruth/half-truth is what facilitated the reduction of the players BRI share from 57% to 51% in 2011.

 

[BaldingSoHard]

Is the NBA the only sport where people have an issue with players getting paid?

Where did you come up with that? Baseball contracts are WAY beyond outrageous.

 

[Rekkapryde]

The only way to truly write that off is by selling it. It's not a good thing for a buyer or seller to know the property isn't profitable.

ehhh, I'm pretty sure teams have been sold when they weren't profitable. I get it, but ehhhh

 

[Rekkapryde]

You haven't been in Philly the past 5 years. They be killing Ryan Howard for his contract.

locally I believe you, but on the national scene like NBA players are.....we know the answer.

 

[Dak Pickscott]

 

[The_Sheff]

I wouldn't complain. I want players to get paid the most possible $. Uncapped slots would help to solve the small market team issues of keeping stars and even out the talent league wide, for the most part.

It would hurt super teams, but the heavy tax does that anyway. Instead of just penalizing owners into not spending, have them pay MORE to compete.

How does it help OKC keep Durant and Westbrook.

 

[ghostwriterx]

It's not exactly a laissez-faire economy, but it is certainly a free market. The only sort of regulations are the salary cap (which can be exceeded in certain cases) and the max contract. Otherwise the supply or demand for the players is what determines their value. But I see where you're coming from.

draft isn't free market either.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

the guys who generate the revenue are underpaid

Now there is some truth in this.. I always questioned why there was a MAX salary in basketball but not in other sports

 

[LV Koopa]

They weren't lying.

They were losing money.


Now everyone's eating except BK

Not only are you wrong but there is a problem here:

So what if teams were losing money? It's a business. You don't deserve to make money. If you can't you go out of business or sell the team.

Now if you know that NBA teams can't fail, that there were billionaires lining up trying to find teams, and owners still weren't selling what do you think was really going on?

 

[ghostwriterx]

That's out of the league's control. Ballmer helped the league out By grossly overpaying for the Clippers. That jacked everyone's value up, but yes the operational losses are what were being argued.

Did the new deal really alleviate that though? If they really wanted to ensure no teams lost money they would just get real about revenue sharing.

 

[GoonbergScandal]

When did anyone watch regular season basketball?

When the NBA used to be on NBC

 

[tremonthustler1]

Not only are you wrong but there is a problem here:

So what if teams were losing money? It's a business. You don't deserve to make money. If you can't you go out of business or sell the team.

Now if you know that NBA teams can't fail, that there were billionaires lining up trying to find teams, and owners still weren't selling what do you think was really going on?

If teams can't inherently profit off something, no one will want it. The ones that kept it did so for more sentimental reasons (Minny being a prime example, New Orleans before that)

 

[tremonthustler1]

Did the new deal really alleviate that though? If they really wanted to ensure no teams lost money they would just get real about revenue sharing.

The new deal? Not fully. The TV deal /team sales? Yes.

 

[LV Koopa]

You think loopholes and stuff were used to cook every team's books? It doesn't take an internal investigation to figure out how teams don't make money. It would take a lot of corruption to hide that lie just to NOT play games that (with supposed loopholes) make you money anyway.

Considering that the NBAPA didn't use the option to audit 5 teams' finances every year like they had the power to, I'd say you're off here. This is a big reason why Billy Hunter got tossed in the bushes and was seen as fukking things up for the players. It really isn't difficult to make your books appear to be losing money. This is especially true when A.) you are a private business beholden to 0 shareholders and B.) value of your company is tied to other factors (arena deals, tv rights) that do not have to be reported in your books and and C.) having other entities such as holding companies where you are paying yourself for services.

 

[ghostwriterx]

The new deal? Not fully. The TV deal /team sales? Yes.

So in other words it has nothing to do with player salaries.