NBA Exec shyts on Ben Simmons: “He’s the same player today as he was in his rookie year.”

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Interesting timing. New Ringer article on this topic:

The Sixers Added Shooters, but There’s Still No Room for Ben Simmons

Philadelphia’s goals for the offseason were to get smaller and put more shooters around Simmons. That would allow him to play in more space in the half court, and get out in transition more often. And they’ve done just that. The 76ers have increased their number of 3-point attempts while going from no. 20 in the NBA in pace to no. 4. Simmons is playing with more freedom on offense because the defense can’t just pack the paint and dare him to shoot. But despite all that freedom, he’s not looking to score. His field goal and free throw attempts per game (9.2 and 4.5, respectively) are down from last season. He created just one basket for himself in the half court on Thursday. His other three came from catching a lob, a putback on the offensive glass, and a run-out in transition after a steal.

The focus on Simmons’s refusal to shoot 3s misses the bigger point. Simmons attempted one 3 on Thursday, and already has hoisted almost half as many (three) as he did all of last season. The more glaring issue is that he struggles to score from anywhere outside of 3 feet from the basket. Simmons is shooting 33.3 percent between 3 and 10 feet and zero percent between 10 feet and the 3-point line. That trend goes back to his rookie season.

Simmons doesn’t really have a plan when he can’t get to the rim. He can’t shoot off the dribble, and has never had a consistent floater. The end result when he’s forced to shoot are off-balance shots that don’t have much chance. The 3-point shot may or may not come, but these are the ones that he has to make:

The second problem is that there’s still no great answer for how to utilize Simmons when Embiid has the ball. The center has been playing at an MVP level this season, averaging 25 points on 53.6 percent shooting, 11.5 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 1.4 steals, and 1.5 blocks per game. Simmons can’t feed Embiid in the post or play with him in the pick-and-roll since defenses will just sag off him. He’s in just the 13th percentile of scorers leaguewide as a ball handler in the pick-and-roll. There are plenty of examples in each game when the lack of synergy between the Sixers’ two stars is clear:

It’s unclear what Rivers and Morey are supposed to do if they want to keep the tandem together. Embiid and Simmons always have been an uncomfortable fit. Playing more shooters around them was the obvious first step. There may not be a second.

One possible solution is to use Simmons like the Heat use Bam Adebayo. Bam (6-foot-9 and 255 pounds) is about the same size as Simmons (6-foot-10 and 240 pounds). Both can pass, handle the ball, and defend at a high level all over the floor. Bam made a leap in last season’s playoffs when Miami downsized and played him as a small-ball 5 with four shooters around him. They put him in a million pick-and-rolls on offense and used him to blow up those plays on defense. He’s not an elite scorer, either. But he took advantage of the driving lanes created when he rolled to the basket after screening for a shooter like Tyler Herro.

That’s how Simmons could be at his best. The easiest way to attack a defense hiding someone like Olynyk on him is to force Olynyk to defend a guard in the pick-and-roll and put three shooters behind the play. Simmons would get open lanes to the basket, and opportunities to make passes in four-on-three situations. While it might be a tough sell for a player who has always thought of himself as a point guard, “point center” has a nice ring to it, too.

But Simmons can’t be a point center when he’s playing next to one of the NBA’s best centers in Embiid. The logic of trading Simmons for Harden was sound. Breaking up Simmons and Embiid could unlock better versions of each player. That’s why Morey pursued the deal so aggressively despite spending his first few months in Philly saying that he wouldn’t.

Simmons has not fundamentally changed as a player in four seasons in the league. There’s no guarantee that he ever will. The best chance of getting more out of him is putting him in a different role with different players around him. That just can’t happen in Philadelphia.

Why Tremont stannin so hard for this dude?
 

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The problem with that article is he’s not a 5 defensively at all. He doesn’t embrace contact from interior players that well and isn’t a rim protector. He’s a 4 that you have to use as a 1 in transition...
 

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Another example of defense being a dirty word.


It’s amazing the standard that Ben Simmons is held to. I almost feel bad for him.

You almost feel bad for a guy who was the 1st overall pick? What other standard are you supposed to set for a top draft pick?
 

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WHEN HAS HE BEEN SHUT DOWN IN THE PLAYOFFS....

he was hurt last yr

and in 2019 him and Butler were the only two players who showed up against Toronto while Embiid was getting bullied by Marc Gasol
and in 2018 him and those European shooters were looking like Showtime lakers til Embiid cameback and got bullied by Al Horford...

Lets not look at numbers as the way justify his game if you don't watch the play....

Narrative talking has killed sports.....
He's only had two experiences being in the playoffs and people write him off like crazy, he killed Miami and the Nets in the first rounds of those playoff runs and was the reason we won wit Embiids's shaky health, it's when he ran into the Celtics and Raptors where he was limited in scoring. The one where he was a rookie against the Celtics is fully on him and against the Raptors they had Kawhi take him out the game offensively but he played his ass off defensively against Kawhi.


He's only 24 with multiple 50 win seasons under his belt and is learning to adjust in Doc River's system where we really don't need him to score all that much because we're one of the best shooting teams in the NBA this yr and he's been creating hella looks for Green, Seth and Tobias who are all benefiting greatly. Which is why Embiid is looking like a superstar right now because of the space he has now. Ben is just having trouble picking his spots and knowing when to be aggressive right now which he'll figure out eventually. And he is taking 3's this season don't know why that narrative is still parroted
 

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Do you think the Warriors should package the MIN pick in a trade for Ben Simmons? Assuming Klay comes back healthy (which is looking good since he tore his non-dominant foot Achilles, similar to KD), GS could be really dangerous with Simmons
 

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Do you think the Warriors should package the MIN pick in a trade for Ben Simmons? Assuming Klay comes back healthy (which is looking good since he tore his non-dominant foot Achilles, similar to KD), GS could be really dangerous with Simmons
That would require them getting rid of Dray. From a sentimental point I don’t think they are ready . Also Ben handles the ball more than Dray so the fit wouldn’t be as easy as you think that’s not even speaking on Greens defensive presence .


Why didn't he just pull up from the free throw line or a floater:jbhmm:
You can’t expect you’ll get a legitimate answer:russ:
 

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Yeah, and Sixers have not been relevant since the 80s. Other than one season where AI took his team to the finals, they couldn't even surround him with a good roster and they hired a coach who had Larry Ayuso and Carlos Arroyo beating NBA all stars in Olympics, top 3 WOAT L in Team USA history. Sixers are supposed to be one of the higher market teams yet they look like a small market shyt show.

Sixers fukked it up drafting Fultz over Tatum.

To be fair, nobody saw Fultz falling off that fast. Who could predict he would completely alter his shot on his own in one summer? I could predict Colangelo's front office throwing him under the bus publicly though, that was his MO in Toronto when his teams underachieved. They really fukked up by hiring Bryan Colangelo.
 
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