NBA finally addressing the end of game problem it has

[David_TheMan]

Without new ideas from the outside, we'd have a four corners offense with no shot clock run every second half in an empty arena

NBA developed the shot clock initially and they still had a league without one. That said at least it came from the premier league, not a inferior league like FIBA.
Its bad enough players can carry, no hand checking, and physicality has been removed from the game, to speed it up even more and reduce strategy of it can be like a terrible college or FIBA came, I don't understand the thought process.

If you want ot reduce timeouts because of tv timeouts fine, but anything else, makes no sense to me.

 

[dh86]

NBA developed the shot clock initially and they still had a league without one. That said at least it came from the premier league, not a inferior league like FIBA.
Its bad enough players can carry, no hand checking, and physicality has been removed from the game, to speed it up even more and reduce strategy of it can be like a terrible college or FIBA came, I don't understand the thought process.

If you want ot reduce timeouts because of tv timeouts fine, but anything else, makes no sense to me.

What about the 3 point line from the ABA? A good idea is a good idea.

 

[mbewane]

I think because with a 24 second clock, you get 8-10 seconds to get the ball across half court. It's obviously well across half court if you get an offensive rebound. The rule keeps the pace up too.

True didn't even think of that...yeah indeed makes total sense now

 

[froggle]

Casuals

Game becomes unbearable, especially when another game is coming....like hurry up nikkas. Over the years, the timeout, review nonsense has just become

 

[Renegade47]

was that millennial jab necessary

 

[David_TheMan]

What about the 3 point line from the ABA? A good idea is a good idea.

I don't look at the ABA as inferior, it was a co-competing league. That has similar athleticism and skill players.
ABA with the restricted area also, plus I believe the ABA did te all-star game first

 

[Dirty D]

Not sure about the first, because the logic is you get an extra possession so why only 14 secs, but could be an idea indeed. Def agree with the second one.

I watched a lot of the FIBA tournament this summer and the games indeed had more pace and less stops at the end, even close ones.

There's a view that an offensive rebound isn't an extra possession, just a continuation of the same possession. Possessions only end when the ball goes to the other team. I believe most per possession advanced stats are based on this.

More simply: if I miss a shot, get the board and put it back in I had possession the whole time, and the other team never had possession until after I made the shot.

Plus the whole crossing halfcourt thing.

I also think there should be less timeouts and that you should lose timeouts as the clock winds down. Like 2 fouls in the last 2 minutes of a quarter puts you on the free throw line you should only get 1 full and 1 20-second timeout the last 2 minutes of each q. That's enough to still have some strategy without losing the casual fans.

 

[YaBoy]

they are already moving to centrally reviewed calls, but again I don't see the point of trying to change the game to the inferior euro version.

NBA developed the shot clock initially and they still had a league without one. That said at least it came from the premier league, not a inferior league like FIBA.
Its bad enough players can carry, no hand checking, and physicality has been removed from the game, to speed it up even more and reduce strategy of it can be like a terrible college or FIBA came, I don't understand the thought process.

If you want ot reduce timeouts because of tv timeouts fine, but anything else, makes no sense to me.

FIBA is inferior because of the players. not the rules. If Lebron, Durant, westbrrok, etc all went to FIBA next year, it'd immediately become the elite league. & like someone else just said, a good idea is a good idea, regardless of where it came from

 

[David_TheMan]

FIBA is inferior because of the players. not the rules. If Lebron, Durant, westbrrok, etc all went to FIBA next year, it'd immediately become the elite league. & like someone else just said, a good idea is a good idea, regardless of where it came from

Its an inferior league by players and ruleset, just like college.
They have to do things to increase the "excitement" of their inferior product and copying these trends with the superior talent in the NBA has lead to a lessing of the NBA product, from the lack of defense and offensive bias, to the removing of physicality, to the ADD need for constant scoring and movement instead of appreciation for the build up and execution.

 

[mbewane]

There's a view that an offensive rebound isn't an extra possession, just a continuation of the same possession. Possessions only end when the ball goes to the other team. I believe most per possession advanced stats are based on this.

More simply: if I miss a shot, get the board and put it back in I had possession the whole time, and the other team never had possession until after I made the shot.

Plus the whole crossing halfcourt thing.

I also think there should be less timeouts and that you should lose timeouts as the clock winds down. Like 2 fouls in the last 2 minutes of a quarter puts you on the free throw line you should only get 1 full and 1 20-second timeout the last 2 minutes of each q. That's enough to still have some strategy without losing the casual fans.

True, yeah I agree with this view with offensive rebounds, had never thought about it before tbh

 

[YaBoy]

Its an inferior league by players and ruleset, just like college.
They have to do things to increase the "excitement" of their inferior product and copying these trends with the superior talent in the NBA has lead to a lessing of the NBA product, from the lack of defense and offensive bias, to the removing of physicality, to the ADD need for constant scoring and movement instead of appreciation for the build up and execution.

What rules exactly have already been taken from them that has lessened the NBA? The international game is already more physical than the NBA so I don't know how we got that from them. I don't know what Euro defensive schemes are like tho, or if we removed illegal defense because of them

 

[mbewane]

What rules exactly have already been taken from them that has lessened the NBA? The international game is already more physical than the NBA so I don't know how we got that from them. I don't know what Euro defensive schemes are like tho, or if we removed illegal defense because of them

Yeah I was about to post the same thing, FIBA is more physical than the NBA nowadays...this isn't the 90s or 2000s anymore, seems to actually more be a bias in favor of defense in FIBA rules

 

[Big Blue]

There are too many timeouts. You don't need 6 timeouts

 

[ThaGlow]

If blowouts are an issue, eliminate garbage time by allowing teams to give up. Advertisement gets shown all in a row following forfeit of game.

If too many timeouts are the issue, reduce timeouts to two 20 sec TOs under final 5 minutes, no matter how many a team had prior. Teams will strategize appropriately at some point.

If intentional fouls to extend game is the is the issue, allow fouled team to pick its own FT shooter in final 30 seconds of game.

If too many reviews are the issue, suspend the player for one game who did knock it outta bounds talking about they ain't touched it. Lol nah, but in a 1-2 possession game I don't mind them getting it right in the final minute. But on the review, teams cannot go draw up plays with the coach. Go to opposite side of their bench. Sign language and yelling permitted, just no clipboard. Teams will learn to get around it, but at least it ain't like a true timeout.

 

[Hersh]

NBA >>>>