NBA Trade Deadline & Rumors

[<<TheStandard>>]

Nah, 364 on the season is pretty bad, 3'6" Isaiah Thomas is at 320 right now on the season. I won't even invoke the name of the Akron Hammer, his numbers are otherworldy in terms of attacking and finishing. George is smooth, he's not really that explosive and doesn't have a great handle so he can't always beat his man. What could help him is adding some weight and working on his post game, I'd change my mind if he could do that, but he seems to have no desire in going into the post either.

While I do agree with this 100 percent and watching him settle for jumpshots is all the time is frustrating, I think Gil is right about his supporting cast.

You could make that argument for anybody not named LeBron, Curry, Durant and AD though.

And that's not to say that I don't agree with the fact he should be attacking more (he only averages 5.1 drives per game - which by any standard for a star player is poor), but I don't think it's fair to rule him as a player that a team can't build around based on the circumstances. He most certainly isn't the type of plug-in superstar that LeBron is, but I don't see why he can't eventually be the star on a legit contender with the right supporting cast and coaching. He's one of a very few wing players we have in the league that has elite impact on both ends of the floor. His game translates to the PS. I just don't think he's been in the right situation to make the most out of his abilities.

This happened in game 5 of their first round series against the Raptors last year when they were up 17 on the Raptors.

In Paul George's 6:55 of rest, the #Pacers were outscored 19-1 and went 0-for-10 from the field.

If Vogel did a better job at managing PG13 in that game, we're probably viewing him a lot different as he pretty much shut down Derozan and almost singlehandedly won that series.

He currently plays on a team that doesn't rebound and has a SG in Monta who can't shoot and is on the downside to his career. His supporting cast really doesn't give him the best chance to lead.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

While I do agree with this 100 percent and watching him settle for jumpshots is all the time is frustrating, I think Gil is right about his supporting cast.





This happened in game 5 of their first round series against the Raptors last year when they were up 17 on the Raptors.

In Paul George's 6:55 of rest, the #Pacers were outscored 19-1 and went 0-for-10 from the field.

If Vogel did a better job at managing PG13 in that game, we're probably viewing him a lot different as he pretty much shut down Derozan and almost singlehandedly won that series.

He currently plays on a team that doesn't rebound and has a SG in Monta who can't shoot and is on the downside to his career. His supporting cast really doesn't give him the best chance to lead.

And that's another important thing to take into account. Players like Westbrook and Harden who don't have that added responsibility/workload of guarding the opposition's best wing/guard player on a nightly basis (this isn't saying they too don't have a big workload). If PG was tasked with being primarily an offensive player: 80+% of his energy and focus on offense and small spurt-%s on defense, I think folk would be a lot more reasonable with how they scaled him as a player because he'd be able to put up better stats across the board.

With all the player movement and ball movement in today's game I don't know if it's possible for a wing/guard to lead their team on offense (a full #1 offensive load) while locking down their opposite on the regular, en route to a title. It just really isn't practical in this day and age.

 

[str8up]

Monta Ellis better be included if Bird ships that first rounder

 

[Alexander The Great]

Rumor is that OKC worked out Kendrick Perkins and word around town is that Russ told the front office that he'd like to keep Morrow and Adams, the rest can go...

Take that for what it's worth

the fukk they working out perkins for all the centers in the league/d-league that are available for the cheap

 

[Captain Crunch]

We're getting closer every day



Promote Nate McMillan brehs

But...but...but... PG ain't going nowhere

@Malta

 

[DoubleJ13]

the fukk they working out perkins for all the centers in the league/d-league that are available for the cheap

It ain't like he'd be playing barring something goofy like trading Kanter (while he's hurt) if they did sign him. He'd be there more as a "coach" yelling shyt from the bench & helping guys like Sabonis in practice.

I'm holding out hope they cut Singler & sign Perk

 

[Recca Gatsby]

Paul George and the Pacers waning into obscure averageness has to be one of the strangest stories this season.

It starts with Monta Ellis being completely trash now

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

Pacers did a bad job building around PG13. He showed that he can carry a team in the playoffs as the #1 option during the pacers run and he carried the pacers vs raptors in 2016 and almost beat them. He's a legit #1 option on a championship team imo.

 

[Frump]

Pacers did a bad job building around PG13. He showed that he can carry a team in the playoffs as the #1 option during the pacers run and he carried the pacers vs raptors in 2016 and almost beat them. He's a legit #1 option on a championship team imo.

When did he show he can carry them as the #1 option on a title team if he didn't do it yet?

As far as the Pacers building around him it was kinda hard to rebuild on the fly without much cap space or high draft picks

They had a few year run then guys like Granger got old Stephenson and Hibbert went to shyt

Kinda hard to rebuild on the fly

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

When did he show he can carry them as the #1 option on a title team if he didn't do it yet?

As far as the Pacers building around him it was kinda hard to rebuild on the fly without much cap space or high draft picks

They had a few year run then guys like Granger got old Stephenson and Hibbert went to shyt

Kinda hard to rebuild on the fly

He did it a few years ago when the pacers had hill, lance, west and Hibbert in the starting 5. They just ran into a historic team with the healtes

And it is hard to rebuild in their situation but that's still not a good excuse for management. They made moves by bringing in Ellis, Teague and Jefferson but they weren't gonna help elevate that team and those moves ended up making them worst imo.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I'm probably in the minority but I always thought George Hill was better than Teague and that move was a step back...

It was literally a mind boggling move that I still don't quite understand.

 

[NatiboyB]

I'm probably in the minority but I always thought George Hill was better than Teague and that move was a step back...

It was literally a mind boggling move that I still don't quite understand.

I think they are both the same caliber of player it seems like the Hawks are the ones who lost out on that trade but who knows how good Tauren Prince could end up...

Both Teague and Hill are in some of the best situations for their skill sets

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I think they are both the same caliber of player it seems like the Hawks are the ones who lost out on that trade but who knows how good Tauren Prince could end up...

Both Teague and Hill are in some of the best situations for their skill sets

That move just reeked of a move that franchises make when they want to make a move to show their fans they're doing something and yet make a move that has no impact (or possibly a negative impact) on the team's success.

 

[NatiboyB]

That move just reeked of a move that franchises make when they want to make a move to show their fans they're doing something and yet make a move that has no impact (or possibly a negative impact) on the team's success.

Yeah for the Pacers and Jazz it was a very safe trade but PGs only had 1 season left and both have been good fits

 

[DonKnock]

Rockets are exploring options for Wilson Chandler via ClutchFans insider