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Then don't take away the draft and salary cap. I don't see how promotion/relegation couldn't work with a salary cap and draft. Baseball doesn't have a salary cap, it still has a draft. Furthermore, there isn't a salary cap in the premier league because there's 10 other quality soccer leagues in the world.

The reasons behind the disparities in european soccer are not from promotion/relegation and they don't have drafts/caps because they have player academies and sign 11 year olds.

As for talent, a league of 20 teams is better for talent distribution than one of 30. The league right now a pseudo-relegation now with how the eastern conference and western conference are split.

Nobody is gonna pay a billion dollars for a relegated team in a country that doesn't support minor league anything. I've seen basketball leagues where they relegate. The relegated teams become worthless.
 

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Defense in general is played only in segments. It used to be offensive to give up 100 a night. Now you can give up 110 in a game and be like "yeah we got key stops and played solidly on that end."

It's not much different than the NFL where the idea of good defense is readjusted to lowered expectations.

I MADE A THREAD LAST SEASON
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THE WAY THE GAME IS NOW CALLED
HAS MADE OVERALL DEFENSE COMICAL.
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Nobody is gonna pay a billion dollars for a relegated team in a country that doesn't support minor league anything. I've seen basketball leagues where they relegate. The relegated teams become worthless.
Comparing any basketball league to the NBA is your first mistake and I'm just not gonna bother with the rest. Have a nice day.
 

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Comparing any basketball league to the NBA is your first mistake and I'm just not gonna bother with the rest. Have a nice day.
you're the one who brought up relegation, not me, and comparing it makes sense simply because you don't even have a basis as to how basketball contraction would function in this country.

As for talent, a league of 20 teams is better for talent distribution than one of 30.

Hell, this dumb shyt you said isn't relegation. It's contraction.
 

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Defense in general is played only in segments. It used to be offensive to give up 100 a night. Now you can give up 110 in a game and be like "yeah we got key stops and played solidly on that end."

It's not much different than the NFL where the idea of good defense is readjusted to lowered expectations.

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It's a pacing issue not a lack of defense, there are simply more possessions per game than there were 10 years ago. We're back to what the pacing was at in the early 90s before Pat Riley & Larry Brown decided to take the air out the ball and play possession basketball.


Yes or no, did they play defense in 92-93? League average for pace was 96.8 and teams gave up an average of 105.3ppg, today the pace is 98.0 and teams give up 105.5ppg :stopitslime:
 

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Imma go ahead and say it. David stern did grow the league big time.
A lot of his heavy handed decisions have aged extremely well.
The baggy street clothes ban. Gave rise to sponsorship on what the hell is westbrook wearing.
Low key I felt it even freed NBA stars to experiment a bit.
Salaries have grown bananas. Jordan owns a bball team. 1st black man to do so.
Even nyk Dolan has promoted key black execs.
The NBA is also more progressive on social issues.
It's the golden years while we though Jordan years were.

And then Silver came through and crush the buildings when he tossed that Fake Hebrew Jew Nazi in the bushes :mjgrin: meanwhile the NFL out here Bribing nikkas not to protest :scust: Marc Cuban might not like nikkas who wear hoodies :mjpls: but he know what the fuc he was talking bout when he said the league would lap the NFL in 20 years :banderas: shyt at this rate it might be 5 :steviej:
 

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baseball doesn't have a relegation system either.

the lottery system has the worst teams get rewarded with ping pong balls to get a top prospect.

with a relegation system who would get the ping pong balls?

the reason of disparities in europeans soccer is the smaller clubs simply don't have the money to buy as much as the bigger clubs.

getafe's pockes aren't deep enough to spend with real madrid. they would struggle to just sign ronaldo and that would put them in the red, much less ronaldo, benzema, bale, modric, marcelo, ramos etc.

Let's stop comparing the NBA to the world of soccer, entirely different beasts.

Smaller clubs can't compete because there isn't a salary cap, there isn't a salary cap because players would just jump to another league without a salary cap. In a world of 10-20 leagues each with billionaires, why would you be the league to institute a salary cap? Additionally, there isn't a draft because no player would willingly limit their earnings by entering a draft when there's 10-20 other leagues out there that pay handsomely.

That isn't anywhere near the case in the NBA. The NBA has no rival league to compete with the NBA for players. As such the NBA can institute a salary cap for competitive balance.

As for ping-pong balls. I'd have to think about a little longer, and I don't feel like it at the moment for someone who is against the idea as it is already. The idea behind relegation would be to deter tanking and non-competitive ownership. The NBA is working on that now with the idea that high schoolers could go straight to the G-League. It's all about finding the right balance of incentives and deterrents. Still, I maintain a draft could still work.
 

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you're the one who brought up relegation, not me, and comparing it makes sense simply because you don't even have a basis as to how basketball contraction would function in this country.



Hell, this dumb shyt you said isn't relegation. It's contraction.
I know I brought it up, but why would I waste my time on someone that thinks the ABL vs the NBA is a sound comparison.

And promotion/relegation != contraction, it's demotion, promotion. Go be angry and confused somewhere else.
 

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So they didn't play defense in 92-93? :jbhmm:

A nikka WHO CANT EVEN SHOOT
AVERAGED A 32 PT TRIPLE DOUBLE LAST YEAR.

THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
GETTING NUMBERS PLAYING
GOOD FUNDEMENTAL BASKETBALL
VS
A BUNCH OF DUDES GETTING BUCKETS
BECAUSE YOU CANT TOUCH GUYS.
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
A nikka WHO CANT EVEN SHOOT
AVERAGED A 32 PT TRIPLE DOUBLE LAST YEAR.

THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
GETTING NUMBERS PLAYING
GOOD FUNDEMENTAL BASKETBALL
VS
A BUNCH OF DUDES GETTING BUCKETS
BECAUSE YOU CANT TOUCH GUYS.
:devil:
:evil:


What does 1 individual have to do with league wide team scoring? :jbhmm:


We talking fundamentals, yet last year teams shot better from the line than they did in 92-93 and shot much higher from three despite taking almost 20 more per game.

You didn't answer whether or not they played defense that year, I can point to other seasons in the 90s as well where the scoring was higher in comparison to the pace than it is today :mjgrin: It can't be both, you can't criticize players today for not playing defense, then turn around and act like the 90s was everyone playing Bad Boys D when the numbers say that isn't even close.
 
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