NDT finally coming around on simulation theory?

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

That is what I was thinking just now. People would rather believe they are in a videogame than to hold themselves up to a moral standard in todays society. Its ok to be evil because every game needs a villian. These people are crazy.

Who suggested it was ok to be evil? Hell the theory itself is relatively new and people have been evil/good before religion existed. Morality evolved before any of this.

 

[Neuromancer]

Who suggested it was ok to be evil? Hell the theory itself is relatively new and people have been evil/good before religion existed. Morality evolved before any of this.

But they won't acknowledge this.

 

[TL15]

I don't know if I would call Madden a simulation. Hell the sims either for that matter, as if you let the sims alone long enough...well it doesn't generally end very good as they are shytty decision makers. Now that I think about it.

Madden is the PERFECT analogy breh (and I don't mean this in a back and forth "the coli" argument kinda way lol)

Think of it this way:

There is ONE real NFL right? Last year the Broncos won the Superbowl

However if you simulate last year through madden you would get a different result.

There were millions of maddens sold. Let's say there were 1 million simulations of last NFL season.

Now let's look at the results in a vacuum:

1 "REAL" NFL result

1 million "simulated" NFL results.

IF you put all of the results on paper (season stats, scores, injuries etc.) and handed it to an outsider, there would be no way for an outsider to ever comprehend which set of results was the actual "real" NFL season and which were the simulated results. All of the results are "real" to the participants (each would be "real" in their video game universe ie the video game would recognize the results, the injuries sustained would be real, the trades etc. would continue in the universe as if it were real), but there would be no way for anyone outside to differentiate between the real NFL stats and the fictional ones.
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The same thing goes for the simulation theory. If people from our "future" are able to simulate a universe 1 time, then they can simulate it a million times, and in a vacuum no one can tell if our world is the "real" one (improbable) or if we are just one of the millions of simulations.

 

[AlainLocke]

Yeah, I'm gonna disagree with you. But that's ok.

No seriously think about it...

We laugh at people for believing in god/s

We laugh at people for believing some ancient aliens visited us and taught us everything...

But we not laugh at people that think they live in a simulation created by super intelligent human beings...because?




Let's be rational here...

There needs to be super intelligent human beings...in the future...that descended from us...which means the Earth and etc would have to been here already...and these people would have to live here already...then get so intelligent...without being wiped out by natural disaster or nuclear war or lack of resources or a competing species...to the point they create an entire reality...even with Moore's Law already slowing down

Yall really gonna believe in that shyt or entertain it

I rather believe that Jesus visited Native Americans

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Honestly it's all crazy. from the simulation to some beareded sky father.

But is it any of that crazier than our existence in the first place or the big bang theory(Universe starting from nothing). If we are being completely honest in this thread occam's razor would suggest "creationism"(not necessarily of the biblical interpretation) is the most likely scenario of them all.

 

[Londilon]

We have already created simulation lives. People don't realize that a simulated "life" is not going to have the same properties as the creators. With video games like "The Sims" or "Madden" or countless others we have already successfully created worlds where the beings make choices based on a set of principles, where outcomes are seemingly random within a given set of limitations, where actions have reasonable and expected consequences.

Just like "The Sims" doesn't have all of the properties that we have, we may not have all of the properties of whatever creator beings created our simulation. Shyt is spoooky.

not true because the characters in these worlds can no live life without your direction. They do no have freewill.

They have to wait for your imput before the game can continue. At some points time stops until you the player make a choice. Not only that a lot of these games have invisable walls that a character in a game can not go past. Videogames are not actual simulations as there is the problem of invisable walls, clipping, draw distance, bad textures, restarting after dying from a fail attemp that would give away the fact that they are a game. They also can't think for themselves and do not live after you turn off the videogame.

 

[Neuromancer]

No seriously think about it...

We laugh at people for believing in god/s

We laugh at people for believing some ancient aliens visited us and taught us everything...

But we not laugh at people that think they live in a simulation created by super intelligent human beings...because?




Let's be rational here...

There needs to be super intelligent human beings...in the future...that descended from us...which means the Earth and etc would have to been here already...and these people would have to live here already...then get so intelligent...without being wiped out by natural disaster or nuclear war or lack of resources or a competing species...to the point they create an entire reality...even with Moore's Law already slowing down

Yall really gonna believe in that shyt or entertain it

I rather believe that Jesus visited Native Americans

First off I'm not saying these are humans. second of all if they were super smart couldn't he find a way to circumvent ELE's?

 

[Londilon]

Who suggested it was ok to be evil? Hell the theory itself is relatively new and people have been evil/good before religion existed. Morality evolved before any of this.

Ok humor me. Tell me about the time when there was no religion.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

if you have ever played the sims then you would know you can't leave them to live life on their own. You end up coming back to a sim with a house full of pee, throw up, trash, water puddles, baby crying or is on fire, and the wife walking out wanting a divorce.

BUT eventually the technology would evolve till this is no longer the case right.I mean given enough iterations of the sims.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Ok humor me. Tell me about the time when there was no religion.

It was a utopia. Everything was sunshine and rainbows, then someone discovered big ole mean religion and slowly the world turned to shyt. Prior to religion there was no murder or jealousy.

 

[Londilon]

BUT eventually the technology would evolve till this is no longer the case right.I mean given enough iterations of the sims.

you just said that we already have simulated life in videogames. I corrected you. Now you are ignoring that fact and going on another rant. Thank you for proving that you are full of shyt.

 

[Londilon]

It was a utopia. Everything was sunshine and rainbows, then someone discovered big ole mean religion and slowly the world turned to shyt. Prior to religion there was no murder or jealousy.

for someone like you that needs evidence of scientific proof for everything and then you turn around and say this, is fukking hilarious. nikkas making up fanfiction just so they dont have to live their lives by a standard that God gave them in the bible.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

for someone like you that needs evidence of scientific proof for everything and then you turn around and say this, is fukking hilarious. nikkas making up fanfiction just so they dont have to live their lives by a standard that God gave them in the bible.

You have to be talking to the wrong person. I'm FAR from the scientific proof person on this site.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

you just said that we already have simulated life in videogames. I corrected you. Now you are ignoring that fact and going on another rant. Thank you for proving that you are full of shyt.

I wasn't the one who said that.

 

[AlainLocke]

First off I'm not saying these are humans. second of all if they were super smart couldn't he find a way to circumvent ELE's?

The simulation hypothesis states they are super intelligent post human beings that descended from us humans running simulations to see how they used their ancestors live...so we are like a museum ...meaning us human beings, would have to survive ELE's to even make it possible for these beings to exist...

And considering how that us current human beings almost blew up the entire world once already with the Cuban missile crisis.. like 50 years ago and we are already reaching the point where water will be a scare resource...

What makes any rational human think we live in a simulation ran by our descendants...