Need A Legit 2nd Option? Holla at Us... 2017 Bulls Off-Season Thread

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wouldn't mind Frank Jackson if he continues well in the combine - will have the ability to grow into a scoring pg



How about the prospects who bring both elements? Asked if he'd be more likely to win a 3-point or dunk contest, guard Terrance Ferguson said both.

No wonder the 6-foot-7 Texas native who committed to Arizona but instead played professionally in Australia last season has interviewed with the Bulls.

Mock drafts have the Bulls all over the place, with several projecting a big man in a draft deep at the position. But they've spent time with all positions. During this week's draft combine, they interviewed point guards projected as high as the lottery (Kentucky freshman De'Aaron Fox) to the second round (Duke freshman Frank Jackson).


Bulls scouting for shooters, athletes at NBA combine as draft nears


atheletes that can shoot, come on down!
 

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Why are the bulls interviewing de'aron fox if they have no chance of drafting him :jbhmm:

If the bulls don't trade jimmy while his value is at it's absolute peak this franchise is fukked.These dudes don't have a clue how to build around him and he isnt worth no 200 mil designated franchise contract

This off season is critical for the bulls or I'm not wasting my time watching them no more they playin the real fans.
 

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Why are the bulls interviewing de'aron fox if they have no chance of drafting him :jbhmm:

If the bulls don't trade jimmy while his value is at it's absolute peak this franchise is fukked.These dudes don't have a clue how to build around him and he isnt worth no 200 mil designated franchise contract

This off season is critical for the bulls or I'm not wasting my time watching them no more they playin the real fans.


smh, you're a good poster but not sure why you're so adamant to repeat the Fizer, Curry, and subsequent eras hoping. We were lost for years until we drafted Deng and Gordon.
 

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smh, you're a good poster but not sure why you're so adamant to repeat the Fizer, Curry, and subsequent eras hoping. We were lost for years until we drafted Deng and Gordon.

Why do y'all keep saying this :snoop:

It will never get to that point.Hypothetically let's say the bulls trade jimmy to the lakers for ingram and the 3rd pick and draft fox you immediately have 2 cornerstones along with portis,niko,payne,valentine,rondo,lopez etc..Fox is being projected as the next john wall

Or trade jimmy to the t wolves for lavine their pick and dunn there's several scenarios that will give them more talent than the bagaric,corey benjamin,fizer days.

the 99-03 days were the worst case scenario the bulls sucked for picks only won the lottery once and drafted busts/projects after trading brand
 

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Of course you want Frank Jackson lmao


yep, excellent IQ, athleticism and shooting

shot 40% from 3, had the 2nd highest vertical in the combine at 42in, has the speed and quickness and handles. Hasn't shown the passing ability in college or ability to run the team - but i think that will make him a bargain.

the kid has alot of power in him (i saw a bit of D rose in him on some of his plays in college - checdk 2;43 in the video below) and already has a 3 point jumper.

The only issue is he was the 4th option on Duke

19 years old, had a strong 2nd half of the season, already topping the combine in measurables and scrimmage - he should be a fast riser. Not sure if he's a 16th pick but definitely could be a 1st rounder...doubt he will be around for chicagos 2nd pick


 

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Why do y'all keep saying this :snoop:

It will never get to that point.Hypothetically let's say the bulls trade jimmy to the lakers for ingram and the 3rd pick and draft fox you immediately have 2 cornerstones along with portis,niko,payne,valentine,rondo,lopez etc..Fox is being projected as the next john wall

Or trade jimmy to the t wolves for lavine their pick and dunn there's several scenarios that will give them more talent than the bagaric,corey benjamin,fizer days.

the 99-03 days were the worst case scenario the bulls sucked for picks only won the lottery once and drafted busts/projects after trading brand


because you're saying the same thing realgm was saying when we traded Brand for Chandler and picked up Curry . Same thing when we went with BAP and took Fizer and added Crawford.

coupled with your outlandish trades and you're not being realistic at all

ingram and the 3rd?
lavine , dunn, and a their pick?

no one is doing this trade, even the computer in NBA 2k isn't doing it. Be realistic breh

edit:

had to just double check where this crazy trade came from and just last year Minny nixed this trade

According to multiple reports, the Wolves offered the Bulls the fifth pick and point guard Ricky Rubio for Butler, but Chicago countered by asking for the pick and guard Zach LaVine.



The Wolves felt that price was too steep. That’s interesting because it had been reported in recent weeks that it would take a package of the fifth pick and Andrew Wiggins to pry Butler away from Chicago. Wiggins has been believed to be off limits but there were many who thought new Wolves president of basketball operations and coach Tom Thibodeau might part with LaVine.

yet now they will trade Lavine, Dunn, and a pick? Smh

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the only team that will do a lopsided trade, IMO, is Boston - as they will have enough pieces to ship off for Jimmy Butler. I can see them trading their picks and a swing player (Smart / Crowder) for Butler
 

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because you're saying the same thing realgm was saying when we traded Brand for Chandler and picked up Curry . Same thing when we went with BAP and took Fizer and added Crawford.

coupled with your outlandish trades and you're not being realistic at all

ingram and the 3rd?
lavine , dunn, and a their pick?

no one is doing this trade, even the computer in NBA 2k isn't doing it. Be realistic breh

Magic johnson is on record saying none of their young players are untouchable,jeanie buss said they want an all star player on the roster next year.If the lakers keep their pick and can't get ball or fultz I bet they'll be willing to trade the 3rd pick and one of those young players for jimmy.Lakers are becoming irrelevant and they've never went thru a period this bad in their franchise history.

Lavine tore his acl,dunn was trash and the t wolves pick if they don't move up will be 6-7.Thibs has 2 legit pieces already in wiggins and towns, I doubt he's trying to get younger.

Y'all content with mediocrity.Besides the thibs era the bulls been mediocre or bad for 20 years.The 'build around jimmy' plan is nothing but wakk suggestions that will have the bulls as a 6-8 seed for years.Jimmys value will never he higher cash in now or they'll regret it in 2 years.
 

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Magic johnson is on record saying none of their young players are untouchable,jeanie buss said they want an all star player on the roster next year.If the lakers keep their pick and can't get ball or fultz I bet they'll be willing to trade the 3rd pick and one of those young players for jimmy.Lakers are becoming irrelevant and they've never went thru a period this bad in their franchise history.

Lavine tore his acl,dunn was trash and the t wolves pick if they don't move up will be 6-7.Thibs has 2 legit pieces already in wiggins and towns, I doubt he's trying to get younger.

Y'all content with mediocrity.Besides the thibs era the bulls been mediocre or bad for 20 years.The 'build around jimmy' plan is nothing but wakk suggestions that will have the bulls as a 6-8 seed for years.Jimmys value will never he higher cash in now or they'll regret it in 2 years.


they aren't trading a 3rd and Ingram period

the fact Kris Dunn was "trash" is exactly the point I'm making here. This is what you wanna rebuild with? we made the playoffs, why you wanna blow it up to become Minnesota for the next decade ? It's ridiculous. We procure all these young guys - which no one has Kobe or Lebron written on them - and in 5 years we will be looking to trade them for a star just like what you're suggesting.

WE need to draft better and make better trades and acquisitions period. We don't need to hit reset that's a poor GM that does that because he doesn't have vision of how to build a team.


lastly if Kris Dunn is "trash" why are you asking for us to trade for him? doesn't make sense. Which is my beef with you and others, you're not putting forward anything sensible just wild b.s.
 

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they aren't trading a 3rd and Ingram period

the fact Kris Dunn was "trash" is exactly the point I'm making here. This is what you wanna rebuild with? we made the playoffs, why you wanna blow it up to become Minnesota for the next decade ? It's ridiculous. We procure all these young guys - which no one has Kobe or Lebron written on them - and in 5 years we will be looking to trade them for a star just like what you're suggesting.

WE need to draft better and make better trades and acquisitions period. We don't need to hit reset that's a poor GM that does that because he doesn't have vision of how to build a team.


lastly if Kris Dunn is "trash" why are you asking for us to trade for him? doesn't make sense. Which is my beef with you and others, you're not putting forward anything sensible just wild b.s.

Dunn was playing off ball with rubio and lavine at 1st when he got tick he showed flashes and he'll be a great defender in the nba.Just needs to work on his half court offense.

You're saying the bolded but when have the bulls ever made better trades and acquisitions bruh?Y'all don't wanna rebuild but rather put faith in a dumb ass fo who adds wade,mcw and rondo to play with jimmy?

it took a weak closing schedule and the worst team in the nba to rest players the last game of the season for the bulls to make the playoffs.This is the mediocrity y'all content with I'm talkin about.The heat played with better chemistry,heart and effort than the bulls they would of made the playoffs if waiters didn't get injured.Bulls lucked into that spot and 1st round match up this team was 41-41 for a reason after going 42-40 the season before.This is the worst spot to be in in the nba.

On one end y'all keep saying the bulls wouldn't get a top 3-5 pick and a young player for jimmy but think he's good enough to build around.Guarantee jimmy will net a top 5 pick and a young player in return if he's traded.
 

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Since we have established that Buckets is not a #1, how about we revisit that knicks trade from a few years ago?
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Melo still considers himself a #1 in the right situation.
 

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Dunn was playing off ball with rubio and lavine at 1st when he got tick he showed flashes and he'll be a great defender in the nba.Just needs to work on his half court offense.

You're saying the bolded but when have the bulls ever made better trades and acquisitions bruh?Y'all don't wanna rebuild but rather put faith in a dumb ass fo who adds wade,mcw and rondo to play with jimmy?

it took a weak closing schedule and the worst team in the nba to rest players the last game of the season for the bulls to make the playoffs.This is the mediocrity y'all content with I'm talkin about.The heat played with better chemistry,heart and effort than the bulls they would of made the playoffs if waiters didn't get injured.Bulls lucked into that spot and 1st round match up this team was 41-41 for a reason after going 42-40 the season before.This is the worst spot to be in in the nba.

On one end y'all keep saying the bulls wouldn't get a top 3-5 pick and a young player for jimmy but think he's good enough to build around.Guarantee jimmy will net a top 5 pick and a young player in return if he's traded.


We are gonna go in circles. if you don't believe in the F.O. making good decision, then making a trade that will ship the only respectable piece out doesn't make too much sense. You're playing the "cross our fingers and hope" strategy that is the NBA draft .

meanwhile, some really good picks ahve come in the 12-36 range. This is the deepest draft in years. Happy with our position, wouldn't mind trading for another pick but evidently there's gonna be some solid UDFA that I think may be roster worthy.


let's be honest we were one bad draft away from having a really good team, that draft being the Doug McDermott draft, which I wanted Lavine, Hood, and/or Anderson out of that draft both of them were available and we traded up to get McDermott. Those picked turned into Gary Harris and Nurkic. And not gonna say mcDermott sucked but we gave up really versatile players


and going back even further, this board was too much about sniff Rose's ass instead of getting rid of him as soon as he was healthy. Keeping Rose as long as we did is that what killed us, always hoping he'd lead us through the playoffs.
 
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