Need some quick advice

[DEAD7]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

 

[OfTheCross]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

1. Effort. Try to reform Police Departments nationwide. Try to reconcile the oppressive history of this country by all government means possible.

2. Looting is a consequence of an underlying issue. It may not be justified in the sense that it's not directly correlated with the instances of injustice, but it's a reaction, by some, to this injustices. If I call you a 'bytch', you may not me justified to knock me out, but it'd be a direct reaction to my insult. Stop insulting us.

3. We don't. But we don't care about y'all we care about Us. Especially because we know, historically and presently, the US has shown they don't care about us. So, yeah. Black Lives Matter and that's what we care for y'all to understand.

 

[Take It In Blood]

just change the topic to sports















oh wait

 

[greenvale]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

Assuming this is in good faith

1. Can't speak for the whole community but for myself it's just I would want future generations to have that same level of comfort as white people when doing basic sht like going to the store to cop stuff. Not have to worry about cops ending your life if some dumb broad calls them on you over some petty shyt, etc. The means is through police reform and all that but that's an end goal I'd like.

2. Looting isn't "justified", but people are hurting out here so it shouldn't be surprising that that happens.

3. because everything in this country is about race... going back to the founding of it

 

[Mr Rager]

In

 

[AnonymityX1000]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

1. Arrest the remaining uncharged cops in the short term, reform the rules on the protocols when a cop kills someone
2. The problem was that bad and people are that angry. It is purely an emotional response so applying logic really isn't appropriate. If you arrest and charge all who were involved I believe it would go a long way to stopping the protests which anarchists, looters and cops will then not be able to piggy back off of.
3. Look at the scoreboard, Black men get killed by cops at an exponential rate by cops compared to other demos. What else is it fukkin' about?!

 

[Smoking With Cigarettes]

1. All 4 cops charged and convicted, police reform, and fukk that IA shyt. There needs to be a body entirely independent of pigs that polices them.

2. This is a weird one, did you justify looting? Obviously looting isn't justifiable but the looting thats happening is part emotional/part opportunistic. The one person that said this to me I told them neither was the Boston Tea Party I said "Laws are laws" and they dropped it

3. You'll never explain this to a white person. They obsess about black culture without even realizing it, and once you call them on it that'll trigger some defenses. If they can't look at population statistics and then see how black people are disproportionately impacted by police in this country its a lost cause IMO. There are white people that thought the election of Obama was the end of racism

@DEAD7 are these convos you actually want to have or convos you're dealing with because of the times? If its the latter I have an approach thats worked well in the Trunp era. Whenever a white person tries to get me to explain history to them without any form of compensation I say, "Yup, and Trump's just gonna make things worse."

From there you get a few options. They either agree and shut up, disagree and shut up, or get mad and bring up Hillary/Obama/Black Unemployment

 

[Based Lord Zedd]

1. Equal and fair treatment in this country, same thing race wants to see happen. I'd also like to see acknowledgement that things have not been fair or equal.

2. We don't need to justify or defend looting. The root cause of this is police brutality, which some white people are still trying to justify / pretend like it doesn't exist.

3. I wouldn't even bother responding to this one, and I'd question the intentions of anyone asking this.

 

[Panther]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

1. Acknowledgment from the government that there is systematic racism in ALL aspects of this country, and genuine reforms to create equality for black people.

2. Looting/rioting is a direct effect from this country's lack of response to systematic racism

3. White people are obsessed with race. Look at the history of this country and all of the laws written to dehumanize or unfairly treat black people

 

[Tony D'Amato]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

For 1, never use the word hobnobs again

Looting is never justified and is just a distraction.

Jim Crow didn't just disappear. Systemic racism is real. Why has America always made it about color? Why didn't they rape and enslave their own ppl. Why did they bring our ancestors over here to treat like sh1t?

As a black man, I'll be happy with equality. I don't think thats too much to ask for.

As a ppl, we're going to have to purge our community of ppl that are holding us back. Ratchets and thugs need to do better or be exterminated.

 

[analog]

As someone who hobnobs in predominately white circles, I’ve had some interesting conversations recently, and i thought I’d pose some of the tougher questions i find myself “casually” faced with to you brehs... most of whom I’m diametrically opposed with ideologically.

1. What exactly do we(the black community) want to see happen?
2. How is looting justified? And why should it take a back seat now that people are dying as a result?
3. Why do we think its all about race?

I’ve answered these in several conversation, but want to hear your takes, if any.

I'm going to parrot a lot of what Dr Claude Anderson has been preaching for decades...

1. We need our own elected officials in positions of power, locally. This means Mayors, Judges, District attorneys, etc. So that we have a hand in law enforcement and can swiftly bring to justice any form of wrong doing. The current powers that be have been in power for a long time and will be very difficult to usurp. Until that time, life, and governance shall be made difficult until they adapt.

2. @OfTheCross covered this well

3. America has made it about race. Enslaving an entire people for centuries, systemically oppressing them even after being "freed" so they are never on par with you, and still have the nerve to ask why it's about race? Anyone asking this clearly has no clue about America's atrocities.

Afaik, places like Germany are generally ashamed about their Nazi history and their treatment of Jews and have attempted to make amends through restitution. Meanwhile in America, a considerable portion of the population still reminisces about a time they owned humans as property.

 

[Dorian Breh]

How is economic inequality justified?

 

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1. Easy arrest the remaining cops! Short Term that needs to be done today! Long Term reform policing and make it way harder to become the police and put police that know something about our people to be around. Anyone raised or has knowledge of a community that isn't there won't destroy try to destroy it if they know something about it!
2. Looting isn't justified but one can understand it! Its an emotional response! Goes back to the first point arrest the cops all of the looting stops basically overnight!
3. This is one of those . If that person is unwilling to even see from my people's viewpoints knowing the damn history and damn near overwhelming evidence of racial injustice talk is finished switch it to the weather and move on!

 

[Pressure]

Looting is justified.

 

[Dorian Breh]

Honestly I'm not sure if looting is justified I think we should let the looters finish looting and then give them let's say nine months to launch an internal investigation into themselves regarding whether or not the looting was justified. One things for sure though the looters need to be placed on paid administrative leave while we get to the bottom of it.