Neil DeGrasse Tyson on God's Existence

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Anyone who sees a tsunami and calls it bad just because of his own view is thinking small. Our brains aren't even capable of comprehending certain things so it doesn't matter how many stars he gazes. The simple concept of infinity is beyond the scope of man. Yes we understand it on the surface, but something with no beginning and no end? It's really inconceivable on the physical plane, where everything has a beginning and end.

As humans, we cut down trees and set controlled fires to manipulate the Earth. To a passer by with no knowledge, they see a forest fire and immediately call it bad. This person lacks understanding.

But what you have to understand is there are 2 sides to EVERYTHING, breh. This is a basic concept that I honestly don't even expect you to understand so it's all good. Esoteric means likely to be understood by a small group of people. :yeshrug:

Scientists only concern themselves with the physical plane, which is the lowest of 7. You'll probably laugh and that's ok, I expect you to. Most people don't even bother to study the physical, just repeat things they heard. Since again, esoteric means understood by a small group, it will never be mainstream and most people just follow the masses. That's why people follow religions in the first place, they're following the masses. But most don't think or study, let alone reach higher planes.

Take this conversation between you and me for instance. You would probably call this a "coincidence" right? :heh:
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This is the 2nd time you've quoted me in this thread with a lil emoji face. Speak what's on your mind, breh. Your passive aggressiveness reminds me of a jealous woman.
Only possible good that can come from a tsunami is population control and its much better ways to handle that the statement is absurd. Believe what you like but miss me with the bullshyt spin.
 

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Only possible good that can come from a tsunami is population control and its much better ways to handle that the statement is beyond absurde. Believe what you like but miss me with the bullshyt spin.

Only those who only understand the physical plane fear death or see it as "bad." I bet you don't even know what the word "bad" really means. :lupe:

I wish understanding upon you, breh.
 

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Only those who only understand the physical plane fear death or see it as "bad." I bet you don't even know what the word "bad" really means. :lupe:

I wish understanding upon you, breh.
:russ: Ok so since you are so sure that you will graduate beyond this physical plane why are you still alive?
 

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There are people right in front of your face on different planes, breh. You just don't perceive it.
Why do you take any steps to stay alive then since you have no fear of death. Why do you eat why do you obey traffic laws etc etc seems there is not incentive to remain alive.
 

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Why do you take any steps to stay alive then since you have no fear of death. Why do you eat why do you obey traffic laws etc etc seems there is not incentive to remain alive.

Life is beautiful. Why would I choose to be suicidal? :dahell:

You think that's you typing your thoughts? That is a physical body, a vehicle. It's not you. You need your body to do your bidding on the physical plane. But your thoughts aren't physical. Your ambition and will to survive aren't physical. Neither is your personality and everything that actually makes you you. It's difficult to have this discussion when you only understand 1/7 of what I'm saying. No, you are only capable of understanding 1/7 of what I am saying but that doesn't guarantee you understand.
 

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Life is beautiful. Why would I choose to be suicidal? :dahell:

You think that's you typing your thoughts? That is a physical body, a vehicle. It's not you. You need your body to do your bidding on the physical plane. But your thoughts aren't physical. Your ambition and will to survive aren't physical. Neither is your personality and everything that actually makes you you. It's difficult to have this discussion when you only understand 1/7 of what I'm saying. No, you are only capable of understanding 1/7 of what I am saying but that doesn't guarantee you understand.
:mjlol: Where did you get this knowledge from?
 

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of course god exist....if you dont believe in god what the fukk do u even have to live for?
Plenty of other reasons, love of others, love of knowledge, friends, family, genuinely enjoying the world around you.
You don't need God to have the will to live, breh.


There is a creator. Ain't no way in hell the universe and everything we see came into existence from nothing :mjlol: What came before the Big Bang?
Perhaps the Big Crunch. I don't think human ignorance of the origins of the space-time continuum give any evidence for God :yeshrug:
I do wonder what early humans believed in? :jbhmm:
Did they believe they had to be created? :jbhmm:
Or did they simply exist? :jbhmm:
 

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:mjlol: Where did you get this knowledge from?

Every place my feet touch is my classroom. But my experiences are my own and yours are yours. Walk the Earth long enough, have enough genuine conversations with people, keep an open mind and clear heart and maybe you can be enlightened too.

But I can assure you there's levels to this shyt.
 

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Has anyone in this thread ever read the short story The Last Question by. Isaac Asimov?
 

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What I find even more retarded than people thinking a "god" doesn't exist is people thinking that a god that created all of this advanced shyt around us and all of us would even give that much of a duck about us on an individual level

There's definitely a god and it isn't in the form we think of but to think everything just happened on accidentally but you can't explain that accident is dumb as hell to me
I don't think there are physics "accidents" and you usage of the word "accident" to describe matter doing what it is intrinsically always doing, as a perfect storm of functions, undermines what you are saying.
The idea is that there is no proof of "God." Every claim regarding the existence of a supernatural being hedges on either on a logical fallacy or an unprovable claim.
 
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:mjlol:He knows that there's a god. A lot of these pop scientists purport to be 'atheists' so they can sell books and documentaries to young people who're disenchanted with religion.

Really prove he exist son

Prove that you exist first.

How do you know that you're alive? How do you know that any of us are alive?

This whole collective experience we call life is essentially an act of faith. Believing in god is no more foolish than believing in yourself.
 

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:mjlol:He knows that there's a god. A lot of these pop scientists purport to be 'atheists' so they can sell books and documentaries to young people who're disenchanted with religion.



Prove that you exist first.

How do you know that you're alive? How do you know that any of us are alive?

This whole collective experience we call life is essentially an act of faith. Believing in god is no more foolish than believing in yourself.
We can prove we exist lol. We have a birth certificate a drivers license other people that remember when we were born can remember me as a child when I grew up. There is a large paper trail to go by.
 
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