Nets, Hornets and Thunder discussing huge trade (Lopez, Lance)

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Apparently the Nets are the only team not to agree yet because their not really sure if they want Lance. Would be Perk to Brooklyn to reunite with KG & Lamb to Chalotte to reunite with Kemba. Grant Jerrett would also go to Charlotte according to Broussard.

Also covinced you guys don't know what you want from OKC. Their in the tax right now & would go further in getting Lopez, Lopez would be the post scorer that we've needed since forever, & we would finally be getting rid of Perk. Yet somehow everyone is still shytting on the idea, even though it's against everything people bring up about the Thunder outside of Brooks.
Because when he gets hurt at a critical time in the season/postseason and the team flames out, he's exercising that plager option and they'll have the exact same team next year with no flexibility.

Did I mention next season is Durant's contract year? :mjpls:

If they're willing to go deep in the tax now, they should have traded for Pau last season.
 

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I'm not sure why Charlotte gave up on the Kemba/Lance backcourt so soon. Did they even play 20 games together?

I don't think so, but they don't use Lance right IMO. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and they don't let him do his own thing.

Also didn't help that he came into the season out of shape, supposedly.
 

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Because when he gets hurt at a critical time in the season/postseason and the team flames out, he's exercising that plager option and they'll have the exact same team next year with no flexibility.

Did I mention next season is Durant's contract year? :mjpls:

If they're willing to go deep in the tax now, they should have traded for Pau last season.

Adding Waiters and Lopez is better than nothing. Plus they've kept Jackson, I don't see how what they've done is a bad thing considering that they are potentially only trading away 2 players who both had minimal impact on games for them.
 

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Adding Waiters and Lopez is better than nothing. Plus they've kept Jackson, I don't see how what they've done is a bad thing considering that they are potentially only trading away 2 players who both had minimal impact on games for them.
I get that aspect of that moves, but I'm not sold on them being the ones that put them over the top. Waiters took more shots than Durant and Westbrook tonight. He's never been a great three point shooter and he's kinda redundant with Jackson on the team. They've had issues with ball movement since Harden got traded and Waiters isn't the remedy to that.

Besides injury concerns, my biggest question about Lopez is will he be on the floor in the final five minutes of a playoff game? If they're playing the Warriors and he's getting pick and rolled to death with Curry and Speights, does his offense make up for that? If not, how is this team improving in the offseason that far over the cap?
 

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What im getting at is that they lost nothing of relevance so how are these bad moves? It's not really the matter of if these moves will work or not, it's just the fact that OKC has been sitting where they are for 3/4 years and now they're finally doing something about it. It might not push them over the top, but it's worth it to at least try in their case.

I don't think anyone else in the league would've been willing to give them anything, so they're taking what's available
 

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I don't think so, but they don't use Lance right IMO. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and they don't let him do his own thing.

Also didn't help that he came into the season out of shape, supposedly.
It is jacked up imo. Like other dude said, they didn't even give it 20 games.

That being said, Lamb is probably a much better fit in a conventional sense but Lance getting hurt in preseason kinda put the skids on everything. One thing is clear though - Steve Clifford never thought Lance was anything special.
 

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Because when he gets hurt at a critical time in the season/postseason and the team flames out, he's exercising that plager option and they'll have the exact same team next year with no flexibility.

Did I mention next season is Durant's contract year? :mjpls:

If they're willing to go deep in the tax now, they should have traded for Pau last season.

We weren't going to have much flexability anyway if we matched a big deal on Reggie. We would have been taking Perks $9m & using that (& probably then some) on Reggie. With KD, Russy, Serge, & Reggie we would have the exact same team more or less but paying Reggie a lot more.

Don't know what it being KD's contract year has to do with anything since nothing will change on that front:mjpls:

And the tax thing has always been a waiting game with Presti. Thunder where going into it, it was a matter of when & trying not to be a repeater a bunch of times before KD came up for a new contract. The TV money coming in will help that out though at the end of the day.

I get that aspect of that moves, but I'm not sold on them being the ones that put them over the top. Waiters took more shots than Durant and Westbrook tonight. He's never been a great three point shooter and he's kinda redundant with Jackson on the team. They've had issues with ball movement since Harden got traded and Waiters isn't the remedy to that.

Besides injury concerns, my biggest question about Lopez is will he be on the floor in the final five minutes of a playoff game? If they're playing the Warriors and he's getting pick and rolled to death with Curry and Speights, does his offense make up for that? If not, how is this team improving in the offseason that far over the cap?

So your not sure if Brooks would play Lopez even if he was getting abused on defense? The same Brooks that played Perk during the finals against Miami when there was no reason for him to be out there? The same Brooks that played Derek Fisher 30+ minutes against the Spurs in the WCF last year when Fisher kept getting switched onto & abused by Tim Duncan?

:mjlol: Scott Brooks is a fukking idoit so yes he would, the only difference is hopefully Lopez more likely to make up for that type of thing on offense whereas Perk clearly couldn't & Fisher was a crapshoot depending on if his shot was falling or not.
 

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On offense he is when he plays...I don't see nothing wrong with bringing him in if they are willing to go over the cap next season...

Is he that much better though? I don't think OKC will ever need much more than around 10-15 pts in the paint, what they really need there is kind of a bruiser who can make the occasionnal basket, which Adams is. I've never been impressed with Lopez's game, either offesively and def not on defense. I don't see it meshing with Thunder pace.
 

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Is he that much better though? I don't think OKC will ever need much more than around 10-15 pts in the paint, what they really need there is kind of a bruiser who can make the occasionnal basket, which Adams is. I've never been impressed with Lopez's game, either offesively and def not on defense. I don't see it meshing with Thunder pace.

He isn't that much better to me because he's so unreliable...He is talented especially on the offenseive in he doesn't rebound well at all and is the Kevin love of Centers. But at one point recently he was considersed a top 4 NBA center.
 

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It is jacked up imo. Like other dude said, they didn't even give it 20 games.

That being said, Lamb is probably a much better fit in a conventional sense but Lance getting hurt in preseason kinda put the skids on everything. One thing is clear though - Steve Clifford never thought Lance was anything special.

:myman: I honestly feel Lance got served a raw deal. And if Cliff wasn't big on Lance in the first place why the Fluck!!! we bring him in??? :mindblown:

I agree it could work wit better coaching cause we have the talent. But I'm not gone lie, the prospect of bringing in Lamb has me kinda hype.
 
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