Nevada Democratic Caucus - 2/20

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Don't fall into this trap breh. This shyt is not about JUST getting Bernie elected. Hillary's campaign is about Hillary getting elected. Hillary's campaign is about Hillary's legacy. Bernie's campaign is a push for progressive ideas that have long been ignored and pushed to the wayside by centrist.

I don't give a flying fukk if MLK rises up from the dead and endorses Hillary tomorrow. Who black people feel compelled to vote for does not affect my political standing. My political views are not swayed or influenced by popularity.

This is the train of thought that left everyone dismayed and depressed during Obama's first term. If you believe in a progressive agenda and not a person, you don't pack up and go home because other people don't want to play ball.

If Bernie loses the nomination, do I still stop shytting on her past voting record - no.

And despite this fake ass narrative about people coveting the black vote, Hillary needs Bernie's support way more than she needs the black vote. Once she gets the nomination, if the 48.7% of democratic voters who turned out for Bernie stay home because they are disgusted with her, her campaign, and the Democratic party, guess what the fukk happens in the fall.......

This shyt is chest muhfukka

TYT is even saying the bytch could get indited. If it does happen after Bernie is out

 

[Atlrocafella]

You people?

And I said over and over I prefer Bernie I just won't leave the country like Bernie stans apparently will if Hillary wins.

Sanders supporters have made a living insulting others wtf?! your stereotypical sanders supporter is the white liberal that knows best for the minority and is saddened they are too stupid to understand what's best for them. Hell look at this board the last two weeks Bernie super stans been calling people everything but nikka with a hard ER.

Edit: if the sad Bernie super stan is stupid enough to let Cruz or trump win because they are mad Hillary is the Dem nom, they deserve what they get.

That nicca so focused On anti Bernie comments that he doesn't even realize the nonsense that comes out the Bernie stans mouth.

 

[I-Hate-You]

Trill out here cooking with Bernie's angles. What a politician.

 

[wire28]

Only reason Bernie getting that young vote is cuz of the empty promises, they hear free college and minimum wage at 15... They need to realize if u want to get paid u are gonna have to work for it.... These kids nowadays want everything easy and free, generation being raised by the Internet

Really. @Abogado said this is the most depressed generation? This is the most spoiled and entitled generation

He basically saying Bernie stans would rather argue with the ump and get thrown out the game because they are mad they hit a single instead of a home run.

The country is moving left every day. Bernie losing isn't the end of the world but letting the repubs win and appoint a new SC justice for the next 30 years may be.

 

[Darth Nubian]

These old ass nikkas are betraying our generation with their votes.

You wouldn't even be voting if it wasnt for those "old ass nikkas".

 

[714562]

RPC averages have Hilldawg losing to Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich in the general.

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Presidential Race

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

You people?

And I said over and over I prefer Bernie I just won't leave the country like Bernie stans apparently will if Hillary wins.

Sanders supporters have made a living insulting others wtf?! your stereotypical sanders supporter is the white liberal that knows best for the minority and is saddened they are too stupid to understand what's best for them. Hell look at this board the last two weeks Bernie super stans been calling people everything but nikka with a hard ER.

Edit: if the sad Bernie super stan is stupid enough to let Cruz or trump win because they are mad Hillary is the Dem nom, they deserve what they get.

I'm sorry bruh but the bolded is literally some of the dumbest shyt I've ever heard. What has voting for moderate Dems like Hilary done for us?

 

[Darth Nubian]

So whats voting for Hillary then?

Voting for the status quo because we need more time to get our shyt together before we have to battle these cacs.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

RPC averages have Hilldawg losing to Cruz, Rubio, or Kasich in the general.

RealClearPolitics - 2016 Presidential Race

"But But But he's too ................................"

People really underestimate how much people hate Hilary.

Vote for a bytch that calls you a Super predator brehs

 

[wire28]

I'm sorry bruh but the bolded is literally some of the dumbest shyt I've ever heard. What has voting for moderate Dems like Hilary done for us?

and that has...let me calculate it hold on....0.0% to do with what I said. If you want to talk about that, quote a post that actually deals with that and not one discussing the average disposition of a Bernie super stan.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

nikkas need to stop with this electable shyt. Bernie beats every republican candidate head to head in most polling. Also, it's not about a candidate being electable, it's about an idea. Bernie's ideas are resonating. If hillary does win she cannot lose sight of that. The country as a whole is fed up and it shows with the demo breakdowns.

 

[Dr. Acula]

Everyone loves this fukkn buzzword "pragmatic." The same Republicans who said no to her in the 90s on health care reform, who tried to impeach her husband, who tried to put her on trial for Benghazi, who tried to put her on trial for the email scandals, are going to sit in a room with Clinton and talk policy over tea and crumpets?

Notice everything I just said covers a period of 24 years of Republican resistance to her SPECIFICALLY.

"....but pragmatism"



"So what are these policies that Clinton will be able to push through Congress" - answer the question. answer the question. answer the question. answer the question.



Now that you've admitted you are willing to fund skilled labor, you've admitted to funding public universities. So the fukk what if the kid goes in with an accounting major or basket weaving major - they both represent jobs in the labor force correct? Did you define skill - nope.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you to back track, redefine skill to only include a STEM major, then fall over yourself when you realize that making it a "skill based policy" would still get a thumbs up from progressives and will still be ignored by "pragmatist" that you are attempting to champion.

Oh stop being dense. An accounting major and basket weaving are not jobs in the labor force that have the same cost-benefit attached to them. An accounting major has opportunity over their life time to put the same or even more that they put back into the system than a basket weaver which is a low skilled job which is in no way going to lead to a high life time earnings. One is helping to refund the system that they is paying into and one is going to never repay the debt. I'm also not dense enough to believe that this is going to be a 1 to 1 situation. There will be those who may not have the expected outcome. Its about likelihood.

I don't use the word pragmatic personally as a "buzzword" as its an actual virtue I admire. I admired Obama's pragmatism and his level-headness on issues. I view Hillary as being more levelheaded and less married to her IDEALS than Bernie. Idealism is nice but it becomes a hindrance if you're not willing to put them aside or adjust them to get at least 90% of what you want.

Finally to answer your most desired question. I'm not naive to believe that republicans are going to rubber-stamp everything Hillary puts in front of them. I believe they are more likely to rubberstamp polices put in front of them by a more moderate democrat than a self-professed democratic socialist. Lets take the issue of college since I've mentioned this. Hillary has advocated free community college but increasing pell grants for universities while also working to encourage colleges to minimize tuition costs. Community college is practically free with the current grant program so while I'm not 100% behind making it free across the board, its less of a economic cost compared to full funding 4 year degrees. Bernie believes everyone should be able to get into all secondary education for free while hillary does not . Free college and increasing pell grant funding range from radical to less radical respectively. The first one is highly unlikely to ever pass while the second one...maybe.

Finally, I'll use the word pragmatic again. Lets say Hillary for example gets roadblocked on the above issues or Bernie gets roadblocked on his respective issue. Who is more likely to make adjustments to their plans to at least get something at least or who would more than likely engage in a everlasting stalemate with the congress because they didn't get EXACTLY what they want? I think Bernie is the latter and Hillary is the former.

By the way, I consider myself liberal but not an absolutely far left individual. More moderate. Bernie doesn't appeal to me that much as a result.

 

[714562]

"But But But he's too ................................"

People really underestimate how much people hate Hilary.

Vote for a bytch that calls you a Super predator brehs

We've had eight years of a democratic incumbent who, despite admirable efforts to get us out of recession, has presided over a very mediocre recovery.

Hildawg is basically running as an incumbent.

Not a great formula.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

My problem is you thinking Bernie would change any of that.

We dont even have legitimate or influential black PACs. SO how the hell would Bernie do anything more than Obama has done? Lip Service? really?

But Bernie actually wants to try. Jesus fukking Christ. Some of yalll just want to keep eating the shyt that the 1% gives us.

 

[714562]

Also, gawt damn at Bernie closing a twenty five point lead in the polls after like a month.