Nevada Democratic Caucus - 2/20

[Misanthrope]

They won't, but they need to do away with the entrance/exit polls shyt. It just fuels the flames that there has been cheating of some kind when they don't match up with the actual vote. Good for the fukkery though

Not just entrance/exit polls. We had actual results from 4-5 counties before they got done with the line and let us start caucusing.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

In all honesty....bernie's margins aren't to be ignored. Dude is getting SERIOUS traction out here

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You don't care about the surpreme court....

The same one that made the decision to desegregate schools?
The same one that will be making a decision on Affirmative action soon?
The same one that often decides on voting rights laws which republicans are constantly trying to rollback to affect black folks?

fukk around and have a conservative court for 30 years and you'll be sitting at the back of the bus again my friend. . The president is ok to fukk around with and "Watch everything burn" with imo...Supreme court is not but ok.

@JahFocus CS is clearly not a woman if he doesn't care about the SCOTUS

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

I'M STILL AT THIS TIMELINE WE'RE EXPERIENCING WHERE DONALD fukkING TRUMP IS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, BROTHER!

This is the saddest thing.

 

[wire28]

I don't understand you people. If you prefer Hillary it's one thing, but none of the people that I know that actually have a pulse on politics and the youth are acting like this. Sanders or Clinton supporter, none of them gloat when the other wins or tries to insult the other because they know the other side is needed to win. They also know that a Sanders-like supporter is the future (as in the next election-cycle forward). I told you guys she would win here earlier because of the unions, but union density is at an all time low. That and regular churchgoers. So two things that are decreasing. Also, older voters.

I get that you guys are watching this as political theater, but the Sanders demographic has to be engaged to win this election and everyone going forward. If they give up hope--and they are really hurting (the least optimistic generation in decades)--then the Democratic Party is fukked. We talk about how stupid the tea party is but if the Republican Party had not acquiesced to some degree, they would have fukked up their turnout. When will Democrats do the same thing? Hillary just won Nevada with only 20% of the voters thinking she gives a fukk about them. I mean goodness. Your strategy is, "She doesn't give a fukk about me, but she's better than the other guys." How long is that tenable?

You people?

And I said over and over I prefer Bernie I just won't leave the country like Bernie stans apparently will if Hillary wins.

Sanders supporters have made a living insulting others wtf?! your stereotypical sanders supporter is the white liberal that knows best for the minority and is saddened they are too stupid to understand what's best for them. Hell look at this board the last two weeks Bernie super stans been calling people everything but nikka with a hard ER.

Edit: if the sad Bernie super stan is stupid enough to let Cruz or trump win because they are mad Hillary is the Dem nom, they deserve what they get.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Hillary lost huge with young voters like myself, we are becoming a more liberal society by the day.. Republicans need to rethink their stance on pretty much every social issue and then go kiss Latino ass because they will not win with that fukked up platform. Their establishment is dead.

Yeah it's like people want to keep ignoring that Hilary loses in the general polls against many of the Republican frontrunners, whereas Bernie beats all of them. Yet Hilary is more electable

The most important things is that the country is absolutely becoming more economically socialist. If Bernie can't win now. Warren will win soon. Best case scenario, especially for blacks, would be 8 years for Bernie then 8 for Warren. A man can dream

 

[JahFocus CS]

You don't care about the surpreme court....

The same one that made the decision to desegregate schools?
The same one that will be making a decision on Affirmative action soon?
The same one that often decides on voting rights laws which republicans are constantly trying to rollback to affect black folks?

fukk around and have a conservative court for 30 years and you'll be sitting at the back of the bus again my friend. . The president is ok to fukk around with and "Watch everything burn" with imo...Supreme court is not but ok.

Nikkas need a wake up call. The whole country does.

A revolutionary reconstitution of society would render the Supreme Court irrelevant. Wouldn't exist anymore, at least not as it does now.

 

[BaggerofTea]

Don't fall into this trap breh. This shyt is not about JUST getting Bernie elected. Hillary's campaign is about Hillary getting elected. Hillary's campaign is about Hillary's legacy. Bernie's campaign is a push for progressive ideas that have long been ignored and pushed to the wayside by centrist.

I don't give a flying fukk if MLK rises up from the dead and endorses Hillary tomorrow. Who black people feel compelled to vote for does not affect my political standing. My political views are not swayed or influenced by popularity.

This is the train of thought that left everyone dismayed and depressed during Obama's first term. If you believe in a progressive agenda and not a person, you don't pack up and go home because other people don't want to play ball.

If Bernie loses the nomination, do I still stop shytting on her past voting record - no.

And despite this fake ass narrative about people coveting the black vote, Hillary needs Bernie's support way more than she needs the black vote. Once she gets the nomination, if the 48.7% of democratic voters who turned out for Bernie stay home because they are disgusted with her, her campaign, and the Democratic party, guess what the fukk happens in the fall.......

This shyt is chest muhfukka

The Democratic Party is fukked, I can live with that

 

[Deflatedhoopdreams]

Hillary with that Obama speech.

 

[BaggerofTea]

You don't care about the surpreme court....

The same one that made the decision to desegregate schools?
The same one that will be making a decision on Affirmative action soon?
The same one that often decides on voting rights laws which republicans are constantly trying to rollback to affect black folks?

fukk around and have a conservative court for 30 years and you'll be sitting at the back of the bus again my friend. . The president is ok to fukk around with and "Watch everything burn" with imo...Supreme court is not but ok.

Bern that bytch down

I can care less at this point, neo-liberal status quo is no way to live at all

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I'M STILL AT THIS TIMELINE WE'RE EXPERIENCING WHERE DONALD fukkING TRUMP IS THE STRONGEST CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, BROTHER!

I'm really curious if nikkas on here are trolling or if they really believe he can win. Republicans have lost the last 2 elections b/c of minorities and young people yet Trump is gonna win

 

[Dr. Acula]

When a population has more access to higher education. It makes higher income, less crime(especially violent crime), and is healthier. It's that simple.

What is also simple is that any black person who can still be in favor for any Clinton after all of the horrible things they have done to us is just sad. It breaks my heart with what John Lewis did. The Clintons have actively and purposefully stopped black people from fulfilling the last part of Dr. King's dream, economic freedom.

It really is just sad that black Americans are getting conned by these racist fukks again.

Bernie is going to outright win or atleast tie every other racial demographic except Blacks

If everyone has a college education and everyone has "high incomes" then inflation will kick in, good's prices will go up and over time it becomes a zero sum game. Secondly, we have an issue with people dropping out of colleges at alarming rate. I think this funding needs to be tied to people who show they can perform (maybe 10% of high school classes) or other metrics that indicate the person isn't going to quit midway and bum around.

I agree with subsidizing degrees for example with high employment chances like nursing or the medical field but this idea that everyone should go to college for free is asinine and will not sustain itself without heavy taxation and it will lead to a lot of waste .

Also the main critique I've heard about economic "harm" on part of the Clinton president was welfare reform and NAFTA. I agree NAFTA and TPP and other trade agreements that kill american jobs need to be gone or revisited but as far as the welfare reform...I'm personally not as big a critic of it, especially when you look into what it entailed. For example it stopped making it possible to use welfare for an indefinite amount of time and instead you had to show you were actively job hunting and it put a 5 year limit on it.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Clinton is much more pragmatic to be honest. Shes not a complete zealot like Bernie.

Everyone loves this fukkn buzzword "pragmatic." The same Republicans who said no to her in the 90s on health care reform, who tried to impeach her husband, who tried to put her on trial for Benghazi, who tried to put her on trial for the email scandals, are going to sit in a room with Clinton and talk policy over tea and crumpets?

Notice everything I just said covers a period of 24 years of Republican resistance to her SPECIFICALLY.

"....but pragmatism"

What people call flip floping, can also be called adjusting your expectations and priorities as the circumstances permit, outside of the election season where you're just vying for vote. You will not get a bi-partisan congress, at least in one turn and with one bill, for example to full fund everyone's tuition by increasing taxes on the 1%(despite the fact research into the matter has shown just taxing the 1% will not cover this cost. You will need to tax normal americans eventually).

"So what are these policies that Clinton will be able to push through Congress" - answer the question. answer the question. answer the question. answer the question.

Also college being funded for skilled labor is ok to me. But like I said, not everyone needs or belongs in college and if you're just going to college to "Find yourself" and explore your interests, pay for it your damn self. IN short, Not EVERYONE deserves free college...in my opinion.

Now that you've admitted you are willing to fund skilled labor, you've admitted to funding public universities. So the fukk what if the kid goes in with an accounting major or basket weaving major - they both represent jobs in the labor force correct? Did you define skill - nope.

Don't worry, I'll wait for you to back track, redefine skill to only include a STEM major, then fall over yourself when you realize that making it a "skill based policy" would still get a thumbs up from progressives and will still be ignored by "pragmatist" that you are attempting to champion.

 

[SithLawd]

hill talking about wall street buying elections

this woman might be a legit sociopath

 

[Dr. Acula]

W

Bern that bytch down

I can care less at this point, neo-liberal status quo is no way to live at all

Well replies like this one becomes obvious to me who are the serious folks and who are just in it for the fukkery.

There is a time to "just watch it all burn" but in a situation like I described, I have to wonder if you have any perception of the future or just chasing an emotional high that you get from watching the drama of "it all burning down". That is short lived but laws that get passed like restricting voting rights is not.

What is the end goal?