Never compare Harden to D Wade ever again

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This why I say you've been online too long I've never once in my life hear mf's with these conspiracy angles, this is an online talking point. I talk ball all the time, nobody ever says "if you have this opinion, it's because you like this player"...

You so tied into online shyt because if you read any posts I've had in the past, and in this very thread, i state that I think Wade was a great player...

My issue with Wade is I think it's clear he wasn't as great a player as people give him credit for, and I've given my reasons why, in this and other threads. People have hypocritical basketball takes, whereas mine are consistent. Mf's will bring up players who have Finals chokes, but never bring up Wade's. Mf's will say that The East was so simple and easy to dominate, yet Wade struggled to win a playoff series in that supposedly easy conference, and when you point this out, you hear about how he was hurt this year, ir team was bad that year, etc...

But if you tell someone that Old LeBron can't carry a team the way he used to, or that he took mediocre rosters on plenty of long playoff runs, mf's have a different bar of accountability...

If a guy was a superstar, then I hold him to superstar accountability. Wade and everyone else. With me there is no, well for this guy I make exceptions...

Injury seasons are fair exclusions for someone, but is still a demerit if you're always hurt at inopportune times. Playing with subpar rosters is a fair context, and I allow that for anyone---->but Wade exhibiting that he couldn't best mid teams like the '09 Atlanta Hawks in a conference we all know was the weaker one, is a fair criticism. Iverson, Melo, DeRozan, and many others beat garbage East teams without a Shaq or Bron level teammate...

To me its an illustration of the level of player Wade was, even when he was post-prime but have good East teams like the '17 Bulls, and couldn't win a playoff series. Its an indicator of the level of player he was...

LeBron playing terribly in the '11 Finals and Wade being unable to carry the Heat home in a series where every game is for the taking, is an indicator of the level of player he was. He was the Heat's best player in that series but he was NOT great in every game, specifically in crunch time with the series in the balance, and because he WAS a superstar, I hold him to superstar accountability for that...

Wade was a great player. Yall just so married to online shyt yall have a sliding scale of stabdards you hold players to. It changes by the guy.....it doesn't change with me.

I agree that it doesn't tell the whole story...

Wade with some of those East rosters should have been able to win more, even a .500 playoff record would suffice. He wasn't playing the '10 Celtics every playoffs. Lesser players won more in The East than he did, hell Haliburton is an example of an inferior player with more success in a weaker conference...

What you guys are really telling me is that if Wade didn't have one of the two best players ever as a teammate, he couldn't win series vs mediocre teams. You're helping make my case...

Those guys won a ton of playoff series without Wade. And won plenty with rosters without a Wade level player, Shaq early in his Laker run before Kobe ascended, had some solid teammates but didn't have a Wade, won series. Bron won PLENTY of series with no Wade next to him...

DeRozan, Butler, and a bunch of guys who in a vacuum were not as good if players as Wade, won in The East, and those guys NEVER had a LeBron or Shaq...


In no universe can you give Jimmy credit for doing a carry job in Miami, and use that as a demerit against wade, but then give bron credit when Jimmy(by your argument) did more with less than wade did. <—-By that logic Jimmy also did more with less in Miami under spo than LeBron ever did. No? Wade top 75. Bam isn’t. Herro isn’t. Dragic isn’t.:jbhmm:

But when heat fans were saying Jimmy was quickly closing on bron in terms of importance all time for the heat, you weren’t having that talk. :mjlol:
 

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They were trying to sell an MVP case for this fraudulent bum!

:hhh: :hhh: :hhh:


Mister Flail & Fail put up Scoot Henderson shooting splits this season.
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

They never stop trying to figure out a way to make him what he isn't.

Conversion therapy isn't real. Let that fakkit be who he is.
A day one member dropping possibly his best line yet in 2025 :dead: :wow:
 

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Tell you what, ahead of the conclusion of the last series, NBA TV ran a stat about game 7s.
Said that Harden was 3-3 in them. Surprised me , but maybe its because I confused closeout games for game 7s.
 

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Going by YOUR logic, Wade and Jimmy have done just as much(if not more), with less, in Miami than LeBron did. :mjpls:

Every LeBron title, he was next to a top 75 player(or potential future top 75). And even lost with future top 75players.

Wade teammates top 75: Shaq/Bron/GP

Bron teammates top 75:
Wade/AD/Shaq(if we counting washed 2006 Shaq as a demerit against wade then 2009 Shaq counts for bron)/Luka(future top 75)/Kyrie(potential future top 75, got to a NBA finals with Luka in western conference, same teammate bron just lost in round one with).

Butler top 75 teammates:
Curry/Embiid(potential future top 75), Rose(would’ve been).

Harden Top 75 teammates: KD(2x), Westbrook(2x), Kawhi, Chris Paul, Embiid(potential future top75).

So of Jimmy, Wade, Harden, and Bron. Who had the better overall total of GOATED teammates, relative to their post season success? :jbhmm: :mjgrin:
 

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They were trying to sell an MVP case for this fraudulent bum!

:hhh: :hhh: :hhh:


Mister Flail & Fail put up Scoot Henderson shooting splits this season.
:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

They never stop trying to figure out a way to make him what he isn't.

Conversion therapy isn't real. Let that fakkit be who he is.
Keep doing gods work OG.
 

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lol, SG it's Jordan, Kobe, Wade....no one else is close unless you were to put Curry at SG(which is what he is really).
 
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