a lot of juelzing to get to the boldedBoy, the Wade apologists are back in full force in this thread!
When I've said EVERYTHING you are saying today, I got labeled a hater. You're not wrong and you never been one to fall into groupthink...
Wade's non-LeBron, non-Shaq career was 8.5 years. Entirely in The East, by the way, which I've been told was so weak any great player could've dominated----->except any great player didn't, including Wade:
2004: 42 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets
2008: 15 wins, missed playoffs
2009: 43 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Hawks
2010: 47 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Celtics)
2015: 37 wins, missed playoffs
2016: 48 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets, L to Raptors
2017: 41 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Baby Celtics
2018: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Sixers
2019: 39 wins, missed playoffs
So in 9 years without two of the 10 greatest players EVER flanking him, Wade's teams won an average of 39.6 wins/year; never won 50 games; were 2-6 (.250) in playoff series----->with BOTH victories being over the historically dominant, juggernaut Hornets franchise
Even if you just condense this simply to his prime, in '08 he was hurt. '09 and '10, Rd1 L's, only respectable one being to EC champ Boston. But yall want nikkas to believe a guy was SUCH a great player, he couldn't win a series vs the Atlanta Hawks franchise who ain't done shyt?
Its funny, if you line up his Shaq/Bron years:
2005: 59 wins, 2-1 playoffs (L ECF)
2006: 52 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2007: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs
2011: 58 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
2012: ~57 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2013: 66 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2014: 54 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
So in 7 years with two GOAT10 guys, his teams won an average of 55.7 wins/year (16-win increase); had a 60-win year and won 50 6 of 7 years; and were 20-4 (.833) in the playoffs
With tgis dramatic gap yall expect mf's to think this nikka dont owe 80% of his career success to Shaq or Bron? We saw what Wade did when he didnt have those two guys next to him---->and frankly Harden's results and carry job are much more impressive, as he won more in a superior conference without a Shaq or Bron on his team...
Harden would have at least 3 rings of he had the luxury of playing with those guys. He was a better basketball player than Wade...
lmao heeeeerrrrreeeeee wweeeeeee ggggggoooooooo
The Wade apologists trip me the fukk out...
Give Harden same teams Wade had, he's matching his success rate...
Give Wade Harden's teams? Wade couldn't win in the INFERIOR conference, this nikka would probably miss the playoffs every year in The West with Harden's teams...
Yall nikkas love fronting on Harden, and in case yall forgot...
I have Wade over Harden All-Time. Because playoffs do matter, Harden aint got an '06, and Wade was more consistently good in The Tournament...
Bit I stand by Harden being a better basketball player, and abhor you nikkas excusing Wade's record like he has some flawless resume...
Never compare Harden to D Wade ever again
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murksiderock
Superstar
The only juelzing in this thread, ain't come from me...
Piff Huxtable
Delaney 2020,2024,2028...
Breh wrote a novel to defend a guy that was glued to the bench in the 4th quarter while Josh Smith and Corey Brewer had to save his teamBoy, the Wade apologists are back in full force in this thread!
When I've said EVERYTHING you are saying today, I got labeled a hater. You're not wrong and you never been one to fall into groupthink...
Wade's non-LeBron, non-Shaq career was 8.5 years. Entirely in The East, by the way, which I've been told was so weak any great player could've dominated----->except any great player didn't, including Wade:
2004: 42 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets
2008: 15 wins, missed playoffs
2009: 43 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Hawks
2010: 47 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Celtics)
2015: 37 wins, missed playoffs
2016: 48 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets, L to Raptors
2017: 41 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Baby Celtics
2018: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Sixers
2019: 39 wins, missed playoffs
So in 9 years without two of the 10 greatest players EVER flanking him, Wade's teams won an average of 39.6 wins/year; never won 50 games; were 2-6 (.250) in playoff series----->with BOTH victories being over the historically dominant, juggernaut Hornets franchise
Even if you just condense this simply to his prime, in '08 he was hurt. '09 and '10, Rd1 L's, only respectable one being to EC champ Boston. But yall want nikkas to believe a guy was SUCH a great player, he couldn't win a series vs the Atlanta Hawks franchise who ain't done shyt?
Its funny, if you line up his Shaq/Bron years:
2005: 59 wins, 2-1 playoffs (L ECF)
2006: 52 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2007: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs
2011: 58 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
2012: ~57 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2013: 66 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2014: 54 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
So in 7 years with two GOAT10 guys, his teams won an average of 55.7 wins/year (16-win increase); had a 60-win year and won 50 6 of 7 years; and were 20-4 (.833) in the playoffs
With tgis dramatic gap yall expect mf's to think this nikka dont owe 80% of his career success to Shaq or Bron? We saw what Wade did when he didnt have those two guys next to him---->and frankly Harden's results and carry job are much more impressive, as he won more in a superior conference without a Shaq or Bron on his team...
Harden would have at least 3 rings of he had the luxury of playing with those guys. He was a better basketball player than Wade...
lmao heeeeerrrrreeeeee wweeeeeee ggggggoooooooo
The Wade apologists trip me the fukk out...
Give Harden same teams Wade had, he's matching his success rate...
Give Wade Harden's teams? Wade couldn't win in the INFERIOR conference, this nikka would probably miss the playoffs every year in The West with Harden's teams...
Yall nikkas love fronting on Harden, and in case yall forgot...
I have Wade over Harden All-Time. Because playoffs do matter, Harden aint got an '06, and Wade was more consistently good in The Tournament...
Bit I stand by Harden being a better basketball player, and abhor you nikkas excusing Wade's record like he has some flawless resume...
murksiderock
Superstar
How does this refute anything I said? Harden has a run to the conference finals in 2015, in a superior conference, with a roster way worse than any roster Wade went ECF or later on...Breh wrote a novel to defend a guy that was glued to the bench in the 4th quarter while Josh Smith and Corey Brewer had to save his team
Womb Raider
5* Gooneral
Harden is a goddamn fraud but he still made Embiid look foolish
Biscayne
Ocean air
I hope you realize your arguments are the same exact ones that FTBS tried to pass in this thread as logical. In your multiple paragraphs you’ve provided no more context than FTBS has provided. It’s the same “He HAD SHAQ!!” Bullshyt arguments. Nobodies buying it. They didn’t buy it 10yrs ago, and we’re not buying it in 2025.Boy, the Wade apologists are back in full force in this thread!
When I've said EVERYTHING you are saying today, I got labeled a hater. You're not wrong and you never been one to fall into groupthink...
Wade's non-LeBron, non-Shaq career was 8.5 years. Entirely in The East, by the way, which I've been told was so weak any great player could've dominated----->except any great player didn't, including Wade:
2004: 42 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets
2008: 15 wins, missed playoffs
2009: 43 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Hawks
2010: 47 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Celtics)
2015: 37 wins, missed playoffs
2016: 48 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets, L to Raptors
2017: 41 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Baby Celtics
2018: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Sixers
2019: 39 wins, missed playoffs
So in 9 years without two of the 10 greatest players EVER flanking him, Wade's teams won an average of 39.6 wins/year; never won 50 games; were 2-6 (.250) in playoff series----->with BOTH victories being over the historically dominant, juggernaut Hornets franchise
Even if you just condense this simply to his prime, in '08 he was hurt. '09 and '10, Rd1 L's, only respectable one being to EC champ Boston. But yall want nikkas to believe a guy was SUCH a great player, he couldn't win a series vs the Atlanta Hawks franchise who ain't done shyt?
Its funny, if you line up his Shaq/Bron years:
2005: 59 wins, 2-1 playoffs (L ECF)
2006: 52 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2007: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs
2011: 58 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
2012: ~57 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2013: 66 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2014: 54 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
So in 7 years with two GOAT10 guys, his teams won an average of 55.7 wins/year (16-win increase); had a 60-win year and won 50 6 of 7 years; and were 20-4 (.833) in the playoffs
With tgis dramatic gap yall expect mf's to think this nikka dont owe 80% of his career success to Shaq or Bron? We saw what Wade did when he didnt have those two guys next to him---->and frankly Harden's results and carry job are much more impressive, as he won more in a superior conference without a Shaq or Bron on his team...
Harden would have at least 3 rings of he had the luxury of playing with those guys. He was a better basketball player than Wade...
lmao heeeeerrrrreeeeee wweeeeeee ggggggoooooooo
The Wade apologists trip me the fukk out...
Give Harden same teams Wade had, he's matching his success rate...
Give Wade Harden's teams? Wade couldn't win in the INFERIOR conference, this nikka would probably miss the playoffs every year in The West with Harden's teams...
Yall nikkas love fronting on Harden, and in case yall forgot...
I have Wade over Harden All-Time. Because playoffs do matter, Harden aint got an '06, and Wade was more consistently good in The Tournament...
Bit I stand by Harden being a better basketball player, and abhor you nikkas excusing Wade's record like he has some flawless resume...
Biscayne
Ocean air
Wayment. So you mean to tell me, if you gave wade Dwight Howard or CP3, or Westbrook of KD, he’d miss the playoffs?Boy, the Wade apologists are back in full force in this thread!
When I've said EVERYTHING you are saying today, I got labeled a hater. You're not wrong and you never been one to fall into groupthink...
Wade's non-LeBron, non-Shaq career was 8.5 years. Entirely in The East, by the way, which I've been told was so weak any great player could've dominated----->except any great player didn't, including Wade:
2004: 42 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets
2008: 15 wins, missed playoffs
2009: 43 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Hawks
2010: 47 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Celtics)
2015: 37 wins, missed playoffs
2016: 48 wins, 1-1 playoffs (beat Hornets, L to Raptors
2017: 41 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Baby Celtics
2018: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs (L to Sixers
2019: 39 wins, missed playoffs
So in 9 years without two of the 10 greatest players EVER flanking him, Wade's teams won an average of 39.6 wins/year; never won 50 games; were 2-6 (.250) in playoff series----->with BOTH victories being over the historically dominant, juggernaut Hornets franchise
Even if you just condense this simply to his prime, in '08 he was hurt. '09 and '10, Rd1 L's, only respectable one being to EC champ Boston. But yall want nikkas to believe a guy was SUCH a great player, he couldn't win a series vs the Atlanta Hawks franchise who ain't done shyt?
Its funny, if you line up his Shaq/Bron years:
2005: 59 wins, 2-1 playoffs (L ECF)
2006: 52 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2007: 44 wins, 0-1 playoffs
2011: 58 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
2012: ~57 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2013: 66 wins, 4-0 playoffs (CHAMPIONS)
2014: 54 wins, 3-1 playoffs (L Finals)
So in 7 years with two GOAT10 guys, his teams won an average of 55.7 wins/year (16-win increase); had a 60-win year and won 50 6 of 7 years; and were 20-4 (.833) in the playoffs
With tgis dramatic gap yall expect mf's to think this nikka dont owe 80% of his career success to Shaq or Bron? We saw what Wade did when he didnt have those two guys next to him---->and frankly Harden's results and carry job are much more impressive, as he won more in a superior conference without a Shaq or Bron on his team...
Harden would have at least 3 rings of he had the luxury of playing with those guys. He was a better basketball player than Wade...
lmao heeeeerrrrreeeeee wweeeeeee ggggggoooooooo
The Wade apologists trip me the fukk out...
Give Harden same teams Wade had, he's matching his success rate...
Give Wade Harden's teams? Wade couldn't win in the INFERIOR conference, this nikka would probably miss the playoffs every year in The West with Harden's teams...
Yall nikkas love fronting on Harden, and in case yall forgot...
I have Wade over Harden All-Time. Because playoffs do matter, Harden aint got an '06, and Wade was more consistently good in The Tournament...
Bit I stand by Harden being a better basketball player, and abhor you nikkas excusing Wade's record like he has some flawless resume...
The fact of the matter is if you’re serious about winning when it matters most you want a whole lotta players before you want Mister Flail & Fail on your team. There’s no Universe where you want this fraud leading your team over Jimmy Butler.
murksiderock
Superstar
I made these points years before fam made them in here. Glad you remember. We also added detail to these points, you just don't agree, which is your prerogative...I hope you realize your arguments are the same exact ones that FTBS tried to pass in this thread as logical. In your multiple paragraphs you’ve provided no more context than FTBS has provided. It’s the same “He HAD SHAQ!!” Bullshyt arguments. Nobodies buying it. They didn’t buy it 10yrs ago, and we’re not buying it in 2025.
Harden's prime ran from the 2012-13 season, thru the 2019-20 season. So, 8 years. In his prime he got the last good version of Dwight and carried him to a WCF---->the last good version of Dwight was an inferior player to the last great version of Shaq that Wade had, who was MVP runner-up (lost to Nash)...
He got the last good version of Chris Paul, who missed 30% of available games with Harden, and the end of a WCF...
He got the last good version of Westbrook for a year, a known playoff crash out who didn't win anything in his own prime...
Harden played with KD pre-, and post-, prime...
So every great player Harden played with, were at the very last stage of their primes when he got to play with them, and you know this because you can look at all of these guys year-by-year numbers to verify. He didn't have any of these guys in their peak----->and while Wade didn't have Peak Shaq, he did have runner-up MVP Shaq, a better player than any of these guys Harden teamed with...
Wade faceplanted in The East with rosters superstars won series with, and not just LeBron. We can go thru names of the post-Jordan East and exclude LeBron, and ask how some of these guys won series out East, yet Wade could only ever beat the Hornets...
Wade, who like Chris Paul, missed time in his prime, wasn't doing shyt with Paul. They'd be injured together...
Wade with an inferior version of late-prime Shaq wasn't doing shyt in The West with Dwight...
Wade definitely wouldn't work with Westbrook. So woild he miss yhe playoffs every year, probably not. But he inly won 2 playoff series in The East---->TWO. DeMar DeRozan, a clearly inferior player, won more than that out East. Realistically he ain't winning more than that in The West with Harden's teams and he certainly aint leading the charge to multiple WCF...
Wayment. So you mean to tell me, if you gave wade Dwight Howard or CP3, or Westbrook of KD, he’d miss the playoffs?
Peter Popoff
PROTECT YA NECK!! 🖕🏽🇺🇲
Kobe in 2019
how is 'wade apologist' even a thing lol wtf
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Biscayne
Ocean air
This is one of the more delusional takes I’ve seen on here.
Wade wouldn’t make the playoffs in the west if he has James Hardens supporting cast. Over/Under, Wade on those rockets teams only winning 30-40 games? You believe this?