New Erykah Badu interview: I saw something good in Hitler; Defends Cosby

[Benefited]

Being a terrible human and talented aren’t mutually exclusive traits. Theres good and bad in everyone, just in vastly different amounts.

Saying an evil person had a capacity for good doesn’t quite equate to supporting their ideologies either.

There’s reasoning behind every action really but I don’t think thats enough to bypass it or accept it.

Nothing “fake deep” or enlightened about objectively weighing up people but I digress

Saying Hitler had “good” art or R Kelly is good sadly doesn’t make you a neo nazi child molester


Anyway, I appreciate the response and I’m just trying to understand an opposing view point on whether we can seperate art from artist or whether anyone is pure evil, not trying to disrespect

I didn't say they were,but the the talent should overshadow the horrible things. Why is she searching so hard to find good in hitler to the point she lands on talking about his paintings? Hitlers paintings don't overshadow his ideology or what he did.

People who grew up in the 90's where grown men picking up from the highchools was normal,that doesn't outweigh prime R Kellys music.

For people who didn't grow up in that era,that does outweigh a out of his prime R Kellys music

Not sure what era you could possibly be from where mediocre paintings can outweigh genocide and someone hating your race

How can you talk about objectively weighing people?when her scale is obviously completely broke to say such a dumb thing?Now everyone has their own scale,but this coming from a black person is nonsensical and disgusting.

 

[EndDomination]

fukk Hitler.

But I also don't subscribe to the idea of him being pure evil, as the mainstream and Jews would have you believe. I get what she's saying and agree. Even that horrible man had some good actions (which no one is arguing outweigh the bad).

I also don't cosign this common notion that Hitler and the Nazis were the worst in history. That designation I reserve for the colonial empires of europe past and present

He didn’t have any good actions that have been recorded since then.
And Germany was a colonial empire too, probably should have paid attention in history class.

I'm sure some people with faux outrage will blacklist her and talk about boycott. But Time magazine made the same man, The Man of the Year, in 1938 - and I'm sure these numbnuts still reference the same magazine.

The woman is entitled to her opinion.

That’s not what Man of the Year is.
It’s neutral designation centered around impact, whether horrific or heroic. In this case it was the most prominent genocidal dictator in the world at the time (rivaling the Turks and the Russians.)

 

[Bonk]

He didn’t have any good actions that have been recorded since then.
And Germany was a colonial empire too, probably should have paid attention in history class.

That’s not what Man of the Year is.
It’s neutral designation centered around impact, whether horrific or heroic. In this case it was the most prominent genocidal dictator in the world at the time (rivaling the Turks and the Russians.)

No, go back and read your history books.

 

[Iceson Beckford]

I didn't say they were,but the the talent should overshadow the horrible things. Why is she searching so hard to find good in hitler to the point she lands on talking about his paintings? Hitlers paintings don't overshadow his ideology or what he did.

People who grew up in the 90's where grown men picking up from the highchools was normal,that doesn't outweigh prime R Kellys music.

For people who didn't grow up in that era,that does outweigh a out of his prime R Kellys music

Not sure what era you could possibly be from where mediocre paintings can outweigh genocide and someone hating your race

How can you talk about objectively weighing people?when her scale is obviously completely broke to say such a dumb thing?Now everyone has their own scale,but this coming from a black person is nonsensical and disgusting.

Dunno where you’re getting the idea I’m trying to “outweigh” or overshadow anything. You cant really overshadow immoral actions with art but only good moral actions.

My case isnt someones art outweighing their actions but you positively judge their art yet negatively judge their character. It isnt mutually exclusive.

If anything I’m saying I seperate the art as a seperate entity opposed to outweighing.

Saying one good thing doesnt mean you cant say 10 bad things.

I don’t listen to R Kelly or Chris Brown because I think their music overshadows, I listen because I view it as something separate to be judged.
I see what see was trying to say but can understand why people don’t.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Excerpts from new interview here http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/erykah-badu-in-conversation.html

I will say drag Hitler but also George Washington for owning humans, declaring war, and refusing to pay taxes. However, he’s on the US dollar bill.

I know how to play games with anglos. Most AAs in positions of influence don’t know how to articulate.

 

[Rusty$hackleford]

He didn’t have any good actions that have been recorded since then.
And Germany was a colonial empire too, probably should have paid attention in history class.

That’s not what Man of the Year is.
It’s neutral designation centered around impact, whether horrific or heroic. In this case it was the most prominent genocidal dictator in the world at the time (rivaling the Turks and the Russians.)

Not nearly on the scale of the British, French or Dutch. And their territories we're mostly released/overrun before ww1. Maybe your school system failed you. And the holodomor happened between 32-33. Not even including Russian mass executions, Stalin inflicted way more genocide to Ukrainians than Hitler to jews.
Recorded by whom? My argument is that a evil man is still capable of good acts. Maybe work on that reading comprehension breh.

 

[mag357]

I always tell ppl to just suck my dikk...
I got my reasons to like or dislike who the fukk i wanna like or dislike.
I feel like im a rational person, and im an understanding person. Alot of ppl are not.
Ive always told ppl that i admire strong willed and skilled leaders. Such as a Farrakhan and Hitler. They possess traits that most ppl dont have...
You might not like what ideals they have have, but get the fukk outta here if u can acknowledge some of there strengths.
And as an american, ud be a big ass hypocrite to call hitler evil, when we live in a country that has done far worse... but we are the ones that write the history books...
War is ugly... it is what it is

 

[Iceson Beckford]

He didn’t have any good actions that have been recorded since then.
And Germany was a colonial empire too, probably should have paid attention in history class.

That’s not what Man of the Year is.
It’s neutral designation centered around impact, whether horrific or heroic. In this case it was the most prominent genocidal dictator in the world at the time (rivaling the Turks and the Russians.)

You’re an intellectual poster and I’m interested to see your perspective on this.

Do you think people are pure evil or even the most abhorrent human can have redeemable qualities and skills? Are humans a myriad of things?

Can a good man do bad and visa versa or do you believe in a moral absolutism?

Is she wrong to suggest theres humanity in everyone?

 

[pete clemenza]

They gone eat her alive

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I don’t care really, I’m still going to listen to mama gun and Baduizm.

 

[GilSho]

Thought I had to cancel wifey after reading that thread title.

 

[EBK String]

Juelz

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Juelz

 

[Van Cleef]

He didn’t have any good actions that have been recorded since then.
And Germany was a colonial empire too, probably should have paid attention in history class.

That’s not what Man of the Year is.
It’s neutral designation centered around impact, whether horrific or heroic. In this case it was the most prominent genocidal dictator in the world at the time (rivaling the Turks and the Russians.)

Works of history must be considered as works of pure imagination. They are fanciful accounts of ill-observed facts, accompanied by explanations the result of reflection.

 

[O.G.B]

You really believe there's no such thing as bad art?

Of course, but that would be based on my own personal perspective.

 

[CHICAGO]

THATS MY SISTA

nikkaS IN HERE DEFENDING JEWS
AND LYING CAC WOMEN NOW?



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[Dad]

Of course, but that would be based on my own personal perspective.

then keep thinking that, that's all art is based on.