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Can only play who's in front of you :yeshrug:

The Lakers were supposed to win those three and they did. The Pacers were the best team of the three and they weren't half bad. As far as Kobe's performances individually in the Finals go, his '00 Finals was the weakest of the three but he was also injured in Game 2 and missed Game 3. He generally played well in '01 and '02. Did it between ages 21-23 too which ultimately doesn't mean much but he more or less established himself as Kobe in these playoff runs and did it at a young age.

I'm not even a Kobe stan but what you should be criticizing guys for more is when they play poorly vs. teams they should beat and their team loses because of it.
 

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Kobe averaged 15ppg 36% against the Pacers



Nicca was Arron Aflalo with an mini fro :mjlol:

He was also only 21 years old in his first Finals going against veteran competition in Reggie Miller and iirc Jalen Rose. Meanwhile Shaq was matched up against air. Kobe did most of his damage getting to the Finals, but did finish a game where Shaq fouled out. And also he did get injured in the series, so he wasn't 100%


What's apparent to me is most of you are to young to remember the 3peat runs. I wish theColi could collectively rewatch it unfold so a lot of you can be educated on exactly how all that went down. It wasn't all Shaq.
 
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Can only play who's in front of you :yeshrug:

The Lakers were supposed to win those three and they did. The Pacers were the best team of the three and they weren't half bad. As far as Kobe's performances individually in the Finals go, his '00 Finals was the weakest of the three but he was also injured in Game 2 and missed Game 3. He generally played well in '01 and '02. Did it between ages 21-23 too which ultimately doesn't mean much but he more or less established himself as Kobe in these playoff runs and did it at a young age.

I'm not even a Kobe stan but what you should be criticizing guys for more is when they play poorly vs. teams they should beat and their team loses because of it.

And honestly, nobody took the NBA Finals seriously back then. Everyone knew the West Finals was the real NBA Finals. That's why the 2002 Kings/Lakers series is talked about so much. That was the de-facto NBA finals that year and it was when the Lakers were most vunerable.

Same reason everyone praises that 2001 Lakers team. They were through the West that year undefeated when it was beastly. Lotta people were picking San Antonio to beat them cause they had home court and outplayed them in the regular season. Then Kobe and Shaq came through and demolished them in 4 games and it had everyone going is this the best team of all-time.

The league was not weak back then. It was very strong. It just so happened all the good teams were out in the West.
 
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He was also only 21 years old in his first Finals going against veteran competition in Reggie Miller and iirc Jalen Rose. Meanwhile Shaq was matched up against air. Kobe did most of his damage getting to the Finals, but did finish a game where Shaq fouled out.


What's apparent to me is most of you are to young to remember the 3peat runs. I wish theColi could collectively rewatch it unfold so a lot of you can be educated on exactly how all that went down. It wasn't all Shaq.

Most of these dudes are lil kids that have never watched those series.

The 2000 Blazers/Lakers series is one of the greatest in NBA history. Same with the 2002 Lakers/Kings series. That was a level of basketball much higher than what we see now.

These lil kids will simply never understand what they never saw.
 

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They are very similar to Drake stans.

shyts disgusting.

i've been seeing the correlation between Bron and 6fraud stans for a while. :manny:
Thanks for proving your just some lil 15 year old kid that never even watched those finals and gets his information just from looking up stats on Basketball Reference.

You do know Kobe sprained his ankle badly in the first few minutes of game 2? In a series where you only play 5 games, only playing a few minutes in one game can mess up your per game averages big time. Kobe then missed all of game 3 of the NBA Finals (which the Lakers lost). Just think about how badly Kobe's ankle had to be injured for him to miss a finals game? He came back for Game 4 when the prognosis was that he would miss 2-3 weeks with the severe ankle injury.

In game 4, while not being close to 100%, and with the series being 2-1, Kobe took over the game in the 4th quarter after Shaq fouled out. He hit a series of clutch shots and led the Lakers with Shaq on the bench to a win over the Pacers and a 3-1 led that basically locked up the championship.

The 2000 NBA finals is one of his greatest performances ever given the circumstances. Kobe played injured and still came through with the biggest performance of the series in the biggest game. As someone who was alive when that series was played, I know what happened. You being some lil kid that never watched those games, you wouldn't know all the context behind those numbers.


dont bother engaging with that shango clown.....he's a WS cac who should be banned for saying nikka :scust:
 
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dont bother engaging with that shango clown.....he's a WS cac who should be banned for saying nikka :scust:

Agreed.

I don't know why we allow white supremacists to post on this site. @PapaShango616 is a straight up white supremacist. The cac exposed himself in a thread where he kept trying to pin that rape charge back on Kobe.

We all know only cacs go for that Kobe rape shyt.
 

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Agreed.

I don't know why we allow white supremacists to post on this site. @PapaShango616 is a straight up white supremacist. The cac exposed himself in a thread where he kept trying to pin that rape charge back on Kobe.

We all know only cacs go for that Kobe rape shyt.
:heh: lifetime ban bet I'm not a cac. You show your face I'll show mine you autistic flat Earth believing retard
 

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He was also only 21 years old in his first Finals going against veteran competition in Reggie Miller and iirc Jalen Rose. Meanwhile Shaq was matched up against air. Kobe did most of his damage getting to the Finals, but did finish a game where Shaq fouled out. And also he did get injured in the series, so he wasn't 100%


What's apparent to me is most of you are to young to remember the 3peat runs. I wish theColi could collectively rewatch it unfold so a lot of you can be educated on exactly how all that went down. It wasn't all Shaq.
I'm 31 years fukk you mean I don't remember the 3 peat runs.:gucci:
I was a huge Iverson fan and Iversob was cooking the shyt out of Kobe all series. The only player we were worried about was Shaq who is still until LeBron in 2016 the most dominant player I've ever seen and that's including 1996-1998 Jordan.
 
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:heh: lifetime ban bet I'm not a cac. You show your face I'll show mine you autistic flat Earth believing retard

Act like photoshop don't exist. We know how you cacs can manipulate images. You ain't fooling nobody. You already exposed yaself when you brought up the rape charges. That shyt crakkkas do.

Ain't no black man that would ever bring that up. PERIOD. You exposed yaself. Now live with it.
 

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Thanks for proving your just some lil 15 year old kid that never even watched those finals and gets his information just from looking up stats on Basketball Reference.

You do know Kobe sprained his ankle badly in the first few minutes of game 2? In a series where you only play 5 games, only playing a few minutes in one game can mess up your per game averages big time. Kobe then missed all of game 3 of the NBA Finals (which the Lakers lost). Just think about how badly Kobe's ankle had to be injured for him to miss a finals game? He came back for Game 4 when the prognosis was that he would miss 2-3 weeks with the severe ankle injury.

In game 4, while not being close to 100%, and with the series being 2-1, Kobe took over the game in the 4th quarter after Shaq fouled out. He hit a series of clutch shots and led the Lakers with Shaq on the bench to a win over the Pacers and a 3-1 led that basically locked up the championship.

The 2000 NBA finals is one of his greatest performances ever given the circumstances. Kobe played injured and still came through with the biggest performance of the series in the biggest game. As someone who was alive when that series was played, I know what happened. You being some lil kid that never watched those games, you wouldn't know all the context behind those numbers.
In the Western Conference finals against the Blazers he averaged 20 ppg on 44% shooting.

So let's upgrade him to Jason Terry with a rape fetish. :umad:
 

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Act like photoshop don't exist. We know how you cacs can manipulate images. You ain't fooling nobody. You already exposed yaself when you brought up the rape charges. That shyt crakkkas do.

Ain't no black man that would ever bring that up. PERIOD. You exposed yaself. Now live with it.
That's what I thought you weak ass p*ssy ass cac bytch. I almost guarantee your an agent trying to make Blacks look stupid.

Don't come at me sideways again you autistic abortion case.
 

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low quality caccing
so you're a c00n then?:dahell:

Bron fans y'all.....
Why don't you read the court documents and transcripts. How degenerate incriminated himself several times. How the injuries we're consistent with sexual assault.


So it's ok to sexually assaulted a 19 year old girl because she a cac.


Nah fukk a rapist. :scust:
 
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In the Western Conference finals against the Blazers he averaged 20 ppg on 44% shooting.

So let's upgrade him to Jason Terry with a rape fetish. :umad:

The 2000 Blazers are arguably the greatest team to never win a title. That's a team that had Jermaine O'Neal as an inactive player on the bench. That's how deep they were. They had a 22 year old PF who would end up being a perennial all-star once he got traded to the Pacers a year later glued to the bench.

And Shaq did average only 25 ppg that series after being a near unanimous MVP in the regular season. So you gotta give credit to the Blazers defense. They found a way to contain both Kobe and Shaq. That's why that series went 7 games.

And in the all-important game 7, it was Kobe that led the Lakers in scoring not Shaq with 25 points. So in the 2 most important games of the 2000 Finals run for the Lakers (Game 7 vs Portland and Game 4 vs Indiana), it was Kobe not Shaq that was coming through in the clutch and winning the games for the Lakers.
 
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Why don't you read the court documents and transcripts. How degenerate incriminated himself several times. How the injuries we're consistent with sexual assault.


So it's ok to sexually assaulted a 19 year old girl because she a cac.


Nah fukk a rapist. :scust:

Like I said. Keep exposing yaself white boy. Every other black man on this site can see right through this post.
 
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