New estimates put Mastermind at 175k first week! Still a flop?

[Omerta]

Well done to Ross. Delivered a good album and rewarded with good first week sales. This will be his lowest selling album though.

 

[Wild self]

This. Ross predominantly makes his music for BLACK FOLK. He calls out crackas repeatedly thoughout his tape and isn't afraid to be disrepectful when he feels like it. Whites tend to enjoy softer, more carefree, less threatening hiphop like Kanye or Cackelmore. Those trying to claim Ross "flopped" because he didn't sell a "million" his first week like Drake, Eminem, Kanye, or any of the other mainstream hiphop artists are fukking idiots, cacs, c00ns, or all three. Album sales have NEVER been the barometer by which classic hiphop is judged, so i don't know why you fukking c*ntS keeping going on and on about it.

Most people i know bought the Ross album and basically everyone has nothing but praise for it. That's all that should matter. All these online reviews from cacs on pitchfork, to the lame ass thread in here really does harm to how we view hiphop as a product. Its like everything BUT the fukking music is empasized. Threads like this piece of shyt and that cacfork review are evidence of that.

Because the album didn't sell a million copies on release day DOES NOT mean i will stop bumping this cd. Why? Because its good to me and my folks. Not sure when this concept of how to enjoy music changed.

I swear, the internet is ruining hiphop

Nah, the internet isn't ruining Hip Hop, the CACs that supported Fif since 2003 are killing Hip Hop because ever since GRODT, people barked about sales more than ever. Ross proves that consistency and good music beats everything in the end.

 

[b@squ1@t]

yall dont get it

willow speaks for the HBCU's, the halfway-houses and the narcotics anonymous groups everywhere


this is easily the most pro-black rapper since positive k dropped "i got a man"

when teflon raps about crab meats and sellin ki's to the community he's biggin up black leaders and pakistani bodega owners nationwide

curly stans dont understand how the tabernacle of rozay speaks to us and how his immaculate beard dye game unites our dark skint comrades

 

[RhymesWell]

He should at least be doing 250-300k for the amount of airplay he gets.

 

[MINT]

FLOP

 

[JustCKing]

doing 175k first week when you are supposed to be the hottest in the game?

stans are copping pleas.

you Think these industry nikkas are doing each other favors???

What exactly are hottest in the game first week numbers supposed to look like? You know people could look at Drake's numbers and say he should be selling a milli just to justify calling his album a flop. Hottest in the game =/= record sales. In fact, how did all of a sudden did Ross become the hottest in the game when just before his numbers came out, people said he was finished.

 

[JustCKing]

He should at least be doing 250-300k for the amount of airplay he gets.

What kind of sense does that make? Tell that to Rihanna. She has #1 after #1, but she like Ross, averages around 150-180K first week per album domestically. Like Ross, her biggest first week was with her 2012 album. It's like saying she be doing what Beyonce does first week, because Rihanna gets more airplay.

 

[Killalex]

Tbh i'm legitly surprised Ross still around, when I heard Port of Miami i didn't think he would be still be around in 2014 and have #1 albums. He found his lane and Mastermind is dope

 

[WickedGames]

Kanye, Jay, Wayne, Jeezy, Weeknd... gonna barely go gold?

Flop

Ross will never be a superstar. New niqqas like Q moving similar numbers with no out of house superstars

 

[ORDER_66]

i brought it... and its not as strong as god forgives music wise i wasnt feeling it. it was ok but it could have been much better than what it was... the two singles and the kanye track was tight tho.

 

[Malik]

Tbh i'm legitly surprised Ross still around, when I heard Port of Miami i didn't think he would be still be around in 2014 and have #1 albums. He found his lane and Mastermind is dope

I knew Ross would stick around for a while. When I heard Port of Miami back in 2006, I had a feeling he would be a Miami version of Jay-Z. South Beach is known for drugs/partying but, no street rapper was out at the time who could spit that luxury Miami Vice, Scarface, South Beach type rap, but, when Ross came out, I was



Of course....I also thought Young Chris would blow up.....I was wrong as hell about that one

 

[Malik]

Good god, Ross was a simplistic rapper back then. I guess I forgot He really stepped his bars up.



Doesn't even seem like the same rapper

 

[Fellatio]

The same numbers for 8 years with no drop... only on def jam

 

[Flav]

Good god, Ross was a simplistic rapper back then. I guess I forgot He really stepped his bars up.



Doesn't even seem like the same rapper

i never listened to this Rick Ross song before but from what i hear he steppped his bars DOWN cause this shyt is clean! sounds like he was rapping with more flare and energy back then.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Don't know why people clown his sales ross is not a superstar like that.