New Hampshire Democratic Debate - (2/4/16 - 9PM EST)

Julius Skrrvin

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Bruh, I know its gotta HURT Hilary's celebrity supporters listening to Bernie :heh:

I don't think any of the candidates are that charismatic, honestly :patrice:

Compared to Obama they all fall flat. Hillary is good but not great, and she gets flustered from time to time. Bernie repeats himself like crazy. The republican candidates are terrible.
 

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Carson is politically dumb
How is he a c00n? A c00n is someone who perpetuates the terrible stereotypes of black people. Ben Carson is one of the most famous Surgeons in the country, in one of the most respectable professions. He doesn't agree with you politically, but that makes him a c00n? No, it makes that fukk nicca TeaBaggar a c00n.
 

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I'm not talking about electability, I'm talking about the expectations. I already said Hillary is going to win and voted that she would win in the Iowa caucus thread. I'm trying to push people to not give up on progressive ideals. I told @smitty22 last week that I think Sanders will push the party left. If he stretches this out, that alone is a win. Someone like him is winning in the next 20 years however, just look at the demographics of the nation. But what's funny to me is that when I stood up for some of Obama's stances you voted Green now you're voting for someone who is more of a war hawk than he is, that's pretty strange. I don't believe in any Democrat doing well in Congress (trust me I would know better than anyone here and I'll leave that at that without going to much into job history). What is his economic protectionism? I am a child of an immigrant parent too. Him being against the TPP makes perfect sense if you know how free trade agreements work.

Do you know what those agreements allow? Go ask South Koreans how they feel about the last free trade agreement and tobacco companies being able to supersede national law. BTW, I don't care about China and India's investments at all and that's just talk (you're looking for a cop out with that every Democrat talks like that and then does nothing...that's not even worth talking about).

Last, but not least, you know I'm not a fan of generalities. What is your "post labor economy" that he does not support? Just know, you're basically invalidating yourself from ever criticizing Obama again. EVER. Every critique of him you've ever made was just invalidated with this post. Clinton = Obama with a penchant for war. Side note: @ThreeLetterAgency @wire28 @Atlrocafella none of what I'm saying is personal. This is how my boys and I talk shyt to each other. But a lot out of "progressives" are showing their ass right now. It's easy to talk in practice against Republicans, but when there's a real credible guy from the left everyone falls back on "electability." I've done my job exposing that so now I'm going back to my usual self. I don't want to hear anything when I'm talking about political efficacy during the Clinton administration from anyone on the "left." What do I really think about Bernie? He'll go out the same way Zephyr went out here in NYC, but he'll push the state more to the left. That's enough.
its all good. again, i cant speak for others but i actually agree with most of you all when it comes to bernie. i like what he wants to do and his bottom line. AT THE SAME TIME, foreign policy is important to me and i dont think he is strong at all on that. i question the viability of his economic plans and th effect their failure would have on the rest of his plans, etc.

being willing to point out the faults in bernie and see the positives that hillary can bring doesnt mean i still dont think highly of him. and @barnone (edit: lol trying to find your old name just made me realize you are barnone lol) said a couple threads ago that we will probably get a president like bernie in 15 years anyway and i think thats true and dont have a problem with that
 

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I don't think any of the candidates are that charismatic, honestly :patrice:

Compared to Obama they all fall flat. Hillary is good but not great, and she gets flustered from time to time. Bernie repeats himself like crazy. The republican candidates are terrible.
I'm still fukked up over how Dirty Hillary was when Obama was running...that bytch was on some SUPER foul shyt
 

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All good. I've said this many times though, I'm not a liberal or a leftist. I lean democratic on most issues, but Not that damn left to the likes of Bernie Sanders. I can stomach a Hillary Presidency. fukk no to Bernie though :yeshrug:
I wasn't talking about you with the leftist swipes. I know you're to the center. I'm politically closer to Sanders because of foreign policy (damn near pacifist like). It's not like I think Hillary is the antichrist, I have friends working for her campaign and I will undoubtedly have friends that are working in a HRC administration at some sort of level, or in the Congress working with her. I think she'll be a competent President that gets things done, but will ultimately frustrate progressives. I think black people will probably let go of the Democratic Party even more because she will push their issues to the back.

Side note: BTW, Sanders' idea that a justice will just come in and overturn citizens united is ridiculous. It will take years for a case like that to come up, and no conservative justice will retire with him at the top.
 

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I don't think any of the candidates are that charismatic, honestly :patrice:

Compared to Obama they all fall flat. Hillary is good but not great, and she gets flustered from time to time. Bernie repeats himself like crazy. The republican candidates are terrible.
Nobody compares to Obama. The man is a GOAT orator, but I agree. It kind of helps though for the issues and policy positions to be what we pay attention to mostly.
 

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How is he a c00n? A c00n is someone who perpetuates the terrible stereotypes of black people. Ben Carson is one of the most famous Surgeons in the country, in one of the most respectable professions. He doesn't agree with you politically, but that makes him a c00n? No, it makes that fukk nicca TeaBaggar a c00n.
:francis: where did I call him a c00n?
 
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