*NEW* Kendrick Lamar - Untitled 2

[010101]

the last hood poet

possibly¿

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[Rain]

How about you fukking release this and part one damnit

 

[MasterSpliffter]

stop crying. ASAP Rocky has nothing to do with this. But since you've deflected and I'm in the mood to entertain the deflect, at least I know Rocky's dropped subpar music since his mixtape.

Kendrick could drop a million trash albums, and you'd still lap it up like the dikkrider you are. Telling us how it's genius and anyone who doesn't like it is a 'hater' and doesn't get hip hop

Tell that to the 11 Gram noms and the critical acclaim But let me guess none of the accolades matter cuz white ppl

 

[SirBiatch]

Tell that to the 11 Gram noms and the critical acclaim But let me guess none of the accolades matter cuz white ppl

You said it breh

 

[Ashtrey]

Kendrick leading the league in at least 6 statistical categories best flow, most consistent, best live performance, most charisma, 3 classics holla ...young GOAT

 

[MostHatedBox]

It isn't fair anymore.

 

[Roid Jones]

Very
Very
Dope

 

[reserved_one]

Still can't believe this the same guy that went by K.Dot who appeared on BWS mixtapes and was unknown back then. You never know who will become a star
The transformation/progression still has me . He's on another plateau right now

 

[wire28]

We may never get a CDQ

Kendrick and these untitleds

 

[wire28]

J Cole does not get half the praise cause Kendrick performs better than him by a mile. I'm a J Cole fan first over Kendrick btw.

Say J NyQuil performs better than Kendrick to be a contrarian, brehs.

 

[Abstract83]

The rap version of D'Angelo. I might be reachin. But thats how im feelin right now after watchin this. This n1gga pours his soul into this shyt. Please make these 2 Untitleds into CDQ's

 

[wire28]

But I'm going to let y'all cook in here

next time save your time and ours by doing that from the start

 

[Kaypain]

his band knows how to jam

 

[Lucky Millionaire]

 

[Insensitive]

At this point man, I honestly think you're more of a fan of the overall product Kendrick and his team put out than K. Dot himself. I get that you dig the sound. That is what causes the discrepancy. I listened to this and liked it, but if this is what makes you the best rapper then a lot of spoken word people have a similar claim. It was a dope performance, but at some point we have to decide what makes an emcee great and not switch that depending on the person. When Wale does this ish he gets made fun of. Kendrick does it and he's a rap savant. I'm so confused.

Side note: this was not an attack on @Insensitive, he just happened to be the most recent poster when I came in here.

It's all good I'm sure it's not an attack.

In my defense though, I wanna say I've been giving Wale his props for years now
and this is from someone who generally wasn't impressed with his debut and thought
his mixtapes were better, however he did pick up the slack on his 2nd, 3rd and 4th efforts.
I feel he's a really talented rapper who gets unfair hate on TheColi much like Kendrick and Cole do.


My posts to back this up for the brehs :

Dudes sleep on how nice Wale is.

This is Hip Hop in 2012

I'm not talking about the actual music because that's subjective that's why I put Hopsin in there because I imagine
most of you dudes only rock with one or two styles of Hip Hop.

If you're judging off of skill though like Clarity, Flow, Lyrics and all the things that make up Hip Hop lyricism then most of these dudes are eating Wale's food,and this is coming from an actual fan something you have admitted to not being.

A lot of Wale's early sh1t is pretty basic, used to overdose on similes, he was very,very average back then, got ate alive by Wayne too.

It wasn't until after his first album that he started going harder with the lyrics.
More About Nothing 2 ? MMG's First Project ? His Last Album ? The Recent MMG Project ? 11-1-11 ?
Those are actual show cases of his elevation as an Emcee and even then he's JUST GETTING on these dudes level. Before that he had bright lyrically but then he'd have tracks where he was just giving an okay performance and mostly bring good song writing to the table.

I'm a rapper myself so maybe I just see it different but I can see where he's clearly progressed as a rapper and song writer but this "Top Ten" nonsense is an exaggeration without a doubt.

Wale is pretty successful but I do personally feel he could be bigger.
And he's had a string of great albums, he's also improved significantly as a rapper
from 06/07 to now.

He's only gotten nicer and his albums have only gotten more thematically ambitious.
He gets unfair hate on TheColi .


I don't think we know what you mean at all.

I'd also like to say, I feel his performance doesn't fit "Spoken word" as I know it.

Put Kendrick's records (Untitled 1/Untitled 2/TPAB)up or any of Wale's "Spoken word" album cuts up against this :

Another Example :


***I will say Wale's "Spoken word" is much closer to Gil-Scott and Saul Williams
than Kendrick Lamar's rapping on Untitled 2 and that I do feel Wale is rapping more
often than not and only sprinkles in "Spoken word" on occasion. I'd also like to say
that Kendrick definitely has some "Spoken word" like performances but they're
pretty different from his rapping ("For free ?" vs. "Institutionalized" for exp.)

In general the way "Spoken word" is formatted and written is different from how a "Rapper" or "Hip-Hop" artist
would approach it. Musically, I think all three performances share similarities but the writing style is what truly separates
them. Rappers IMO have a certain limitation to work with that Spoken Word artists don't necessarily have conform to
and as heads we know that's related to rhyming.

In my opinion what makes Kendrick great is that not only is he a stellar rapper but his production accentuates the ideas he's
trying to get across and for me, this isn't an opinion I reserve for Kendrick it's what I use to measure every rapper by.
When I listen to Jay-Z or Nas or Kool G Rap or with more more contemporary artists when I listen to Blu,J. Cole, Kendrick Lamar,
Wale, Fashawn etc.
I'm judging them by how they use the beat AND their pen, in Kendrick's case he's taken it a step further and hired on some
incredibly talented musicians and writers that can bring more to the table than the typical beat maker can.

On average they (the typical beat maker) simply won't know anything about Bebop scales or Altered scales, syncopation and
polyrhythms, shifting keys several times throughout a song, writing charts for several instruments or other more complex musical ideas.
I feel this musical ambition once tied to his writing is what makes for a pleasing listening experience.
Like for example when the beat swells on "How Much A Dollar Costs" along with his increasingly frantic flow or how they the hard
"Trap drums" seem almost at odds with the sweet and mellow sounding "Seventh Chords" on "Alright" or the dope head nodding
hard hitting rhythm and the beat switch on "Institutionalized".

With that said I don't know if I'd go as far as crowning him "The best rapper" frankly while I feel that "To Pimp A Butterfly" was one of
THE best releases last year, I also feel Skyzoo dropped a straight banger in "Music For My Friends".

And that album is also a very DOPE and ambitious album that balances full on sampled records and/or records
that contain little or no samples while still remaining "Hip-Hop" but it's apart of this wave of new Hip-Hop that seems to embrace
the larger African American musical heritage (Jazz, Soul, Funk etc.) while still remaining "Hip-Hop".
I also feel Skyzoo is an incredibly dope writer/rapper so much so that I wrote up a huge review for the album that I never posted
in the Album thread.