New Michael Moore Doc Is The Most Depressing Doc I've Ever Seen - Planet of The Humans

[Micky Mikey]

It is...

But scaring people in order to get them to do/behave as you want, or believe they should, will never sit well with me.

Fear of an existential threat compels us to make changes. And given the nature and severity of the threat we should be afraid BUT not to the point it puts us in hopeless stupor. We have to overcome this notion that highlighting the raw scientific facts is "fear mongering".

How else would you present such an urgent and existential issue as ecological collapse? This is a serious question btw. This isn't a left or right issue. We'll need both market solutions and big government to work around this issue. We shouldn't be so grounded in our ideologies that we aren't able to accept the need for both measures.

Total ecological collapse means the deaths of hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people and the potential collapse of industrial civilization within the course of a human lifetime.

 

[barese]

Wait, you think socialism or communism would solve consumption of resources?

Not having planned obsolescence certainly does help.
I still have clothes from communism, some shirts and pants and jackets that last decades.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Wait, you think socialism or communism would solve consumption of resources?

I think "capitalism" is too broad a brush to use effectively in conversations.

But slavery to profit motive and a money system based on loans-at-interest are the two largest drivers of overconsumption in our world.

 

[FabTrey]

just watched it and yes that shyt was depressing as hell.

and so basically we are fukked no matter what. there is no such thing as clean energy. anything we produce hurts the mother earth.


the last scene hit me hard brehs. and the animal fat part too.




we better hurry da fuk up with the space travel brehs. we gotta find a way to build shyt in Mars.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

just watched it and yes that shyt was depressing as hell.

and so basically we are fukked no matter what. there is no such thing as clean energy. anything we produce hurts the mother earth.


the last scene hit me hard brehs. and the animal fat part too.




we better hurry da fuk up with the space travel brehs. we gotta find a way to build shyt in Mars.

Earth is perfectly suited for us, Mars is far more difficult. Why wouldn't we fukk it up far worse than we've already fukked it up here?

The solution is to lower consumption. We could EASILY be happier with far less. We don't need to replace our technology every year, we don't need to eat meat twice a day, we don't need to have 10x as much clothes and shoes as we could ever wear, we don't need to have multiple cars in every family. Literally choosing between survival or not (at least survival for some people and environments, because they WILL pay the cost), and we ain't even willing to give up shyt that we don't actually need and doesn't actually make us happy.

 

[FabTrey]

Earth is perfectly suited for us, Mars is far more difficult. Why wouldn't we fukk it up far worse than we've already fukked it up here?

The solution is to lower consumption. We could EASILY be happier with far less. We don't need to replace our technology every year, we don't need to eat meat twice a day, we don't need to have 10x as much clothes and shoes as we could ever wear, we don't need to have multiple cars in every family. Literally choosing between survival or not (at least survival for some people and environments, because they WILL pay the cost), and we ain't even willing to give up shyt that we don't actually need and doesn't actually make us happy.

you bet we gonna fuk it up prolly within 10-15 years. but at least it buys us time to come up with another planet to invade if we do have that kinda science


and what you are saying makes sense, but it's not possible breh. we got 8 billion humans with 8 billion different mind set. telling them to conserve energy and consume less is practically impossible.



most of us will never be able to change who we are. we are weak as hell. we can't all of sudden give up burgers and pizzas. i can't give up meat cuz i'm not a veggie person. i tried meatless monday and shyt. and i miserably failed. i tried fasting too. i ate twice more the day after. i'm a weak mofo.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

you bet we gonna fuk it up prolly within 10-15 years. but at least it buys us time to come up with another planet to invade if we do have that kinda science


and what you are saying makes sense, but it's not possible breh. we got 8 billion humans with 8 billion different mind set. telling them to conserve energy and consume less is practically impossible.



most of us will never be able to change who we are. we are weak as hell. we can't all of sudden give up burgers and pizzas. i can't give up meat cuz i'm not a veggie person. i tried meatless monday and shyt. and i miserably failed. i tried fasting too. i ate twice more the day after. i'm a weak mofo.

It's not about just "telling people to consume less". That assumes the current levels are natural. But our current state isn't natural, it's propped up by a MASSIVE advertizing and influencing industry that's constantly telling you to BUY BUY BUY CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME UPGRADE UPGRADE UPGRADE. And that's solely to fulfill corporate bottom lines. Even talking about meat, out beef consumption is something like triple what it was in the 1950s, because of a giant campaign and lobbying effort by the beef industry to try to get us to eat more and more. Of course it's killing our health and health care costs in the process, but that don't matter to them.

We really have to change our economy to one that doesn't rely on constant growth, doesn't force everyone to take out loans at interest to get anywhere, and doesn't put corporate profits ahead of everything else. If we changed the incentives, consumption would go down plenty cause it ain't making us happy, but we don't realize how much advertizing and peer pressure influences us.

 

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[Shogun]

 

[phcitywarrior]

He isn't saying anything new though. Implicit in a capitalist system is the notion that growth is good. However, there's a finite amount of resources here on earth. Once the last ore of cobalt is mined then it's a wrap for battery manufacturers and the products they support (iPhones, Teslas, etc).

As countries develop economically and begin to consume more, then we'll see increased strain on the environment.

 

[Master Teacher]

just watched it and yes that shyt was depressing as hell.

and so basically we are fukked no matter what. there is no such thing as clean energy. anything we produce hurts the mother earth.


the last scene hit me hard brehs. and the animal fat part too.




we better hurry da fuk up with the space travel brehs. we gotta find a way to build shyt in Mars.

lmao mars, if its possible to build shyt on mars and live on, than that technology can save the Earth, since Mars is what the Earth will end up looking like if humans keep this same pace

 

[Master Teacher]

I got two things from this documentary: Either we hope and pray for some clean form of technology that will allow us to maintain our life style OR we radically reduce our consumption.

The average American will never accept a reduction in their consumption and the Chinese are hell bent on emulating the western lifestyle. I feel that collapae our ecosystem will force us to change our lives whether we want to or not. But by that time it will be too late to anythinh about it.

Most environmentalist groups focus too heavily on climate change and over look the the underlying issue of over consumption.

The documentary does touch on over population which I do not completely agree with. We have a over consumption problem not an over population problem.

what lifestyle, most people in america live pretty shytty lives

people really enjoy driving in their garbage ass cars to go nowhere but work

do you really need any of this shyt

When will you wake up and realize people are human crops, slave labor for rich people, and the only reason money exist is to control a population of servants

You think nikkaz in the amazon jungle worry about money or going to work

they just living everday, when they hungry they go get something to eat, they don't punch a clock and go to work so they can feed themselves

when they need shelter they make it out of the materials nature has provided etc

Everything was already provided to us for free on this planet, nikkaz laugh at buying for p*ssy but they PAYING FOR WATER lmao, some shyt that is free and comes with nature, grocery store close muthafukkaz can't even FEED THEMSELVES

The population are just human bets, and the rich elite will be living on space stations with environmental controls living in luxury while the poor are left with the fukked up planet with no resources lmao

 

[John Mexico]

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