New Woj article on the Cavs, Lebron

[FTBS]

Winning was secondary but he couldnt win in Miami or Cleveland (a championship this year)

The one team where he could have won was Houston. However, that would have been a PR nightmare.

He chose business and family.

I think PHX would've been a problem with him as well. I think that was the main influence for him going to MIA as well. Imagine the 2010 Bulls with Lebron . But he chose to roll with his "brother" and his "friend" in MIA.

 

[CrimsonTider]

So it's not bout winning or Rings or basketball it's all bout setting his people and fAm up. As a basketball fan it's wack but as a black man I dig it

So, I get the notion Lebron will be happy not ever getting another ring again in return of getting his friends and family jobs. Can you imagine Kobe ever doing something like this? Lol

Honestly as things unfold I am starting to believe that is was all about this and everything else, including winning, was secondary.

Winning was secondary but he couldnt win in Miami or Cleveland (a championship this year)

The one team where he could have won was Houston. However, that would have been a PR nightmare.

He chose business and family.

Winning is just as important but you have to put yourselves in lebron shoes

Who does he think is more responsible for those championship? Lebron or the Heat org?

He thinks it was all him. So why can't he replicate that in Cleveland and move around the org like he wants to

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Winning is just as important but you have to put yourselves in lebron shoes

Who does he think is more responsible for those championship? Lebron or the Heat org?

He thinks it was all him. So why can't he replicate that in Cleveland and move around the org like he wants to

Cant believe I'm saying this , but..


you're right

He carried the load in Miami. Riley got lucky getting guys like Birdman for the low.

But he was the best at a lot of shyt in Miami

So in his mind he thinks its all about him.
However, the Heat's culture did keep him more focused I guess

 

[CrimsonTider]

Cant believe I'm saying this , but..


you're right

He carried the load in Miami. Riley got lucky getting guys like Birdman for the low.

But he was the best at a lot of shyt in Miami

However, the Heat's culture did keep him more focused I guess

My problem with Bron going back is that he left for a reason

That reason being that Cleveland is a horribly ran organization and the reason he never won us because that team isn't smart enough to construct a team.

That's evident with what they did in the 4 years he was gone... NOTHING!

why go back to that?

 

[beenz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cavs-need-lebron-james-to-show-leadership-he-promised-173753124.html

no suprise here. like I said before, gilbert sold his soul to the devil to get lebron back. I'm sure the st vincent st mary players all have team jobs and are on the cavs payroll.

mickey arison and pat riley weren't putting up with all that bullshyt that comes with lebron. hell, for all we know lambo rides on the team charter flights and has access to the practice facility.

 

[beenz]

LeBron going back to Cleveland in a way is like an NFL coach going back to college in terms of power.

Sure CLE doesnt have the glamour of Miami but like most College coaches, he is the GOD of that area and can do as he pleases. NFL coaches, while they make more money, dont have that kind of power in their localities. Riley wasnt going to cede any power to a player.

you mean like harbaugh going back to the wolverines???

 

[beenz]

one more thing about this situation. when it boils down to it, lebron signed only a 2 year deal with opt out options after each season. if he was so committed to cleveland, yet wanted to get his money in summer of 2016, he could have at least signed a 2 year max deal with no player options. but the way it's set up now, lebron has ALL the power in cleveland. and it'll stay that way for the forseeable future.

 

[beenz]

is this the first in-season piece he's written on Lebron this season? if so, he's probably been lickin' his chops, waiting to send this to his editors.

not knockin either one, really. i love the drama.

if anything that's windhorst licking his chops.

"fat elephant "

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

if anything that's windhorst licking his chops.

"fat elephant "

Elephanthorst

 

[FTBS]

Winning is just as important but you have to put yourselves in lebron shoes

Who does he think is more responsible for those championship? Lebron or the Heat org?

He thinks it was all him. So why can't he replicate that in Cleveland and move around the org like he wants to

If winning is priority number 1 you don't go to a shytty org that doesn't know what it's doing and is basically looking to you to lead them. Cleveland ain't the only org that would have given him the run of the place. If winning was just as important as ego, control, PR etc. then there is no way Cleveland beats out HOU or PHX.

Cant believe I'm saying this , but..


you're right

He carried the load in Miami. Riley got lucky getting guys like Birdman for the low.

But he was the best at a lot of shyt in Miami

So in his mind he thinks its all about him.
However, the Heat's culture did keep him more focused I guess

Trying to get that ring monkey off his back and the fact that all the blame was gonna end up on him kept him focused. This idea that his boys not getting hook ups somehow made Bron focus more, as if he didn't focus the first go round in Cleveland, is silly and completely unfounded. The Heat culture had D. Wade basically doing the same shyt Bron is doing now save making personnel choices and remember Bosh was talking about wanting to chill in year one. Bron has scapegoats in Cleveland (Kyrie, Love, Blatt, the org itself) and he will be worshiped there and have all kinds of business opportunities no matter what.

 

[Kang Deezy]

My problem with Bron going back is that he left for a reason

That reason being that Cleveland is a horribly ran organization and the reason he never won us because that team isn't smart enough to construct a team.

That's evident with what they did in the 4 years he was gone... NOTHING!

why go back to that?

He's basically forced them into making the same panic moves they made last time

Could have had a great young core around him to develop with long term

Looking like Wiggins is better already than anybody he's got playing next to him

 

[intruder]

you mean like harbaugh going back to the wolverines???

Yup

He'll be worshipped like a god. Does something to your ego

 

[CrimsonTider]

If winning is priority number 1 you don't go to a shytty org that doesn't know what it's doing and is basically looking to you to lead them. Cleveland ain't the only org that would have given him the run of the place. If winning was just as important as ego, control, PR etc. then there is no way Cleveland beats out HOU or PHX.



.

Its also about legacy building too. Nothing will make Lebron a legend outside of winning 7 ships like winning a title in cleveland for cleveland

He's basically forced them into making the same panic moves they made last time

Could have had a great young core around him to develop with long term

Looking like Wiggins is better already than anybody he's got playing next to him

Love and Kyrie are better than Wiggins.

 

[FTBS]

Its also about legacy building too. Nothing will make Lebron a legend outside of winning 7 ships like winning a title in cleveland for cleveland


Love and Kyrie are better than Wiggins.

That's the thing, it can't be everything on equal terms. Some things take precedence over others. Nothing that has happened suggests that winning is paramount for him at this point.

 

[BStapies]

The Hawks definitely can beat the Cavs, all that ball movement with Clevelands terrible defense?

Ontop of Kevin Millsap being Paul's son?

Cavs would get cooked now but we aren't talking about now. We are talking about april. At the end of the day, they are still the hawks and the cavs got lebron. Cavs will get it together eventually and the hawks will slow down eventually.