New York Jets 2013 Offseason thread

[LastEmperor2k2]

I don't hate the geno pick, but I would feel a lot better about the offense if they took warmack at 9, traded down at 13, got another pick and scooped up patterson.

Geno, warmack and patterson would look like a nice haul and give me optimism about our offense going forward.

I just want to be able to buy a jets jersey of a offensive skill player

I'm not a big fan of Geno, but you can't argue value. That's a great value there, he might be a franchise QB one day.

But if he struggles and they are in a position to take one of the big QB's next year and they don't, could be a decision that haunts them.

The value of the Jets pick is commendable though, all the dudes they picked where at the top of their positions going into the draft.

 

[tremonthustler1]

What's the consensus, yall actually happy you got Geno Smith?

I actually thought Jets had a good draft, all value picks, but Geno prevents then from taking a QB next year where the real stars are.

I'm not gonna lie, even though I wanted Teddy Bridgewater (still do), I was there and I didn't boo the Geno pick. Most people didn't, don't let the pissy Jets fans fool you. Most people liked the pick.

Same with Milliner. I just don't think Geno will get a chance to actually win the job over Sanchez given what we saw last year with Rex's reluctance to bench Fez. If he's sitting behind Garrard with Geno getting a chance to start at the end of the year, that's all fine and good (and if Geno actually wins the job, good luck to him). Back in October we were hoping we'd suck bad enough to maybe land Geno, now he's here. I can't complain too much.

Milliner I feel bad for in the sense that he isn't Revis and that's the standard he'll be judged by. Richardson, hated the pick, not the player. Idzik /Rex have actually picked players I don't hate, which is a good thing, even the Ivory trade.


Hopefully this is one of those things where we don't fully get it now, but 2-3 years later, we're saying Milliner/Geno/Richardson DA GAWD.

I'll be there again today. After the Jets pick in round 5 I'm gone to support the latest #TeamBringIt movie. Hopefully we draft a Safety, OLB, and a TE.

 

[Born2BKing]

Geno got a solid endorsement from Ron Jaworski.

 

[Trip]

Taking Geno in the second vs 9 or 13 is night and day.

Its a good pick because it rids us of Sanchez and if he busts, it was only a second round pick.

Favre was great aquistion for the Jets because it finally got Pennington out of here...similar with Geno/Sanchez. You cant continue with bad QB play.

 

[Trip]

I just want to be able to buy a jets jersey of a offensive skill player

Ivory

 

[captaincharisma]

how is nassib still there? i thought the jets were in love with this guy

 

[MarloStanfield]

Woodson/Ivory makes for a good duo if both stay healthy, now we need some receivers.

 

[#1 pick]

I'm not gonna lie, even though I wanted Teddy Bridgewater (still do), I was there and I didn't boo the Geno pick. Most people didn't, don't let the pissy Jets fans fool you. Most people liked the pick.

Same with Milliner. I just don't think Geno will get a chance to actually win the job over Sanchez given what we saw last year with Rex's reluctance to bench Fez. If he's sitting behind Garrard with Geno getting a chance to start at the end of the year, that's all fine and good (and if Geno actually wins the job, good luck to him). Back in October we were hoping we'd suck bad enough to maybe land Geno, now he's here. I can't complain too much.

Milliner I feel bad for in the sense that he isn't Revis and that's the standard he'll be judged by. Richardson, hated the pick, not the player. Idzik /Rex have actually picked players I don't hate, which is a good thing, even the Ivory trade.


Hopefully this is one of those things where we don't fully get it now, but 2-3 years later, we're saying Milliner/Geno/Richardson DA GAWD.

I'll be there again today. After the Jets pick in round 5 I'm gone to support the latest #TeamBringIt movie. Hopefully we draft a Safety, OLB, and a TE.

I love love love Geno abilities. One of the best pure passers I've ever evaluated and all his flaws can be worked on quickly. All of them. He is the best pure passer I rated since... Ever. Doing this since 1999 for NFL drafts.


I am not a fan of NY weapons but it's clear you will run the WCO and I hope Hill is much much better than he was last year. He had a terrible time running routes last year but he can make a play on the ball with the best of them. Kerley is nice and Holmes needs to be healthy. He will shock the league but the Jets defense might be 4G next year. Mo Wilk and Richardson to go with Cro and Millner. Damn.



I like Garrard but he's a good backup at this point, he is not a legit starting QB and of course Tebow isn't as well. Sanchez was the worst QB in the NFL last year who started a lot of games.

 

[Trip]

I love love love Geno abilities. One of the best pure passers I've ever evaluated and all his flaws can be worked on quickly. All of them. He is the best pure passer I rated since... Ever. Doing this since 1999 for NFL drafts.


I am not a fan of NY weapons but it's clear you will run the WCO and I hope Hill is much much better than he was last year. He had a terrible time running routes last year but he can make a play on the ball with the best of them. Kerley is nice and Holmes needs to be healthy. He will shock the league but the Jets defense might be 4G next year. Mo Wilk and Richardson to go with Cro and Millner. Damn.



I like Garrard but he's a good backup at this point, he is not a legit starting QB and of course Tebow isn't as well. Sanchez was the worst QB in the NFL last year who started a lot of games.

dont forget Coples

 

[King P]

What's the consensus, yall actually happy you got Geno Smith?

I actually thought Jets had a good draft, all value picks, but Geno prevents then from taking a QB next year where the real stars are.

Not it doesn't. If Geno goes out there and stinks up the joint and we are in a position next year to draft a QB, I think we would really consider it.

The Panthers drafted Jimmy Clausen a couple years ago in the 2nd round. Didn't stop them from taking Cam Newton the next season.

If a QB is horrible, he is horrible. And there is no shame in immediately trying to find his replacement.

 

[King P]

After thinking over the draft picks we made, I have an issue with the Dee Milliner pick. And it doesn't have anything to do with him as a player.

Alot of people have been raving about Milliner and talking about how he will be a very good CB. Maybe even a shutdown corner. From fans to analyst.

That's all well and good, but here's something to take into consideration...

Let's just say Milliner does end up being a very good corner, or even becomes the next Revis like some people are hyping him up. When payday time comes, is this FO going to pay the man? Can anyone answer this question?

Because we have all determined that we will not pay CBs top of the line money. So what's gonna happen this time around if he ends up being just as good? Revis, who is by far the best CB in the league, was waiting on a contract and we declined to pay him. So what we did by trading away that best player on our team was create another need. And then we used our top pick on that need.

Its idiotic and backwards logic. I for one do not believe that Milliner will not be better than Revis. To me, Revis is a player that rarely comes around. Yet we traded him away and used that draft pick on the exact same position. It's moronic and that's really the only way to say it. You might as well have just payed Revis the money because you know what you are getting.

For all we know, Milliner could be a bust. And even if he does end up being as good as advertised, then what? Are we going to trade him when payday time comes (because we can'y pay a CB big money) and then have to draft a CB again, and have the cycle continue on and on and on?

That's the biggest problem. And really, it could come back to bite us in the ass.

 

[#1 pick]

Not it doesn't. If Geno goes out there and stinks up the joint and we are in a position next year to draft a QB, I think we would really consider it.

The Panthers drafted Jimmy Clausen a couple years ago in the 2nd round. Didn't stop them from taking Cam Newton the next season.

If a QB is horrible, he is horrible. And there is no shame in immediately trying to find his replacement.

Geno Smith is a better passer than Cam and I am one of the biggest Cam fans there is. I seen Clausen play numerous times in ND and then the NFL. He is barely near as Chris Redman much less someone like Smith. Smith is a franchise player. This is the face of your franchise and to be honest, you got an extremely good one. He is not the overall QB that Luck, RG3, or Cam is but he is a better passer than all three of them. He throws players open. He can handle pressure. He rates on my charts as a much better NFL prospect than college and he was elite in college. You got a steal if you took him at 9 but you took him at 39 This might be what puts the Jets on another tier. Just imagine if someone raw like Hill actually greatly improves. Hill before this draft was rated by me for having the most potential on your team who isn't already great: Wilk and at the time Revis. Hill skill-set reminds me of Sidney Rice with elite speed but he was extremely raw. If he gets much much better, you have a top 10-15 WR. The Jets have a really good squad. Ivory is a big move as well. I liked him and NO has poor run blocking and he still shined. You will love him, he gave my Birds fits and he was better than Ingram in my opinion.

 

[tremonthustler1]

After thinking over the draft picks we made, I have an issue with the Dee Milliner pick. And it doesn't have anything to do with him as a player.

Alot of people have been raving about Milliner and talking about how he will be a very good CB. Maybe even a shutdown corner. From fans to analyst.

That's all well and good, but here's something to take into consideration...

Let's just say Milliner does end up being a very good corner, or even becomes the next Revis like some people are hyping him up. When payday time comes, is this FO going to pay the man? Can anyone answer this question?

Because we have all determined that we will not pay CBs top of the line money. So what's gonna happen this time around if he ends up being just as good? Revis, who is by far the best CB in the league, was waiting on a contract and we declined to pay him. So what we did by trading away that best player on our team was create another need. And then we used our top pick on that need.

Its idiotic and backwards logic. I for one do not believe that Milliner will not be better than Revis. To me, Revis is a player that rarely comes around. Yet we traded him away and used that draft pick on the exact same position. It's moronic and that's really the only way to say it. You might as well have just payed Revis the money because you know what you are getting.

For all we know, Milliner could be a bust. And even if he does end up being as good as advertised, then what? Are we going to trade him when payday time comes (because we can'y pay a CB big money) and then have to draft a CB again, and have the cycle continue on and on and on?

That's the biggest problem. And really, it could come back to bite us in the ass.

Amen

 

[Trip]

After thinking over the draft picks we made, I have an issue with the Dee Milliner pick. And it doesn't have anything to do with him as a player.

Alot of people have been raving about Milliner and talking about how he will be a very good CB. Maybe even a shutdown corner. From fans to analyst.

That's all well and good, but here's something to take into consideration...

Let's just say Milliner does end up being a very good corner, or even becomes the next Revis like some people are hyping him up. When payday time comes, is this FO going to pay the man? Can anyone answer this question?

Because we have all determined that we will not pay CBs top of the line money. So what's gonna happen this time around if he ends up being just as good? Revis, who is by far the best CB in the league, was waiting on a contract and we declined to pay him. So what we did by trading away that best player on our team was create another need. And then we used our top pick on that need.

Its idiotic and backwards logic. I for one do not believe that Milliner will not be better than Revis. To me, Revis is a player that rarely comes around. Yet we traded him away and used that draft pick on the exact same position. It's moronic and that's really the only way to say it. You might as well have just payed Revis the money because you know what you are getting.

For all we know, Milliner could be a bust. And even if he does end up being as good as advertised, then what? Are we going to trade him when payday time comes (because we can'y pay a CB big money) and then have to draft a CB again, and have the cycle continue on and on and on?

That's the biggest problem. And really, it could come back to bite us in the ass.

Revis is a player that rarely comes around I agree....but players at that position rarely require 16 mill per(actually, its never happened). 5 years from now if Milliner wants to be paid like a Qb we probably move on too....5 years out of player is good value anyway. You stock and reload through the draft and the position that needs to remain constant is the QB.

Tampa had the cap space because they dont have a big contract locked into more imortant positions. If Freeman stinks again the team isnt going anywhere

 

[tremonthustler1]

If the Jets trade or release Sanchez before I leave the draft today, I'll just stay here all day and sleep. Holding out for Rambo. Day 1 jersey cop