“New York Rap Fell Off Because 50 Cent Made It Cool To Sound Southern & Changed The Sound Of New York Music”

[Shadow King]

NY fell off because they stopped producing talented rappers.

False.

NYC fell off cuz the class that had next didn’t pan out (Saigon, Papoose, Fab, Banks, Jules, Jimmy, Cam)

And the southern class (Wayne, Tip, Jeezy, Ross) did.

juelz and Saigon probably being the biggest offenders, imo.

How did Cam and Fab (and arguably Jim depending on what you expected of him in the first place not pan out?

On top of them not really belonging in the "next" class.

 

[DaveyDave]

besides a bit of a slur in his words 50 never did anything southern tho. He never used "southern" beats or anything like that

 

[Shadow King]

New York fell off when sampling became a huge legal issue.

Sampling has been an issue since Beastie Boys, so nah

 

[Art Barr]

Rap became low quality all around from puff.


Art Barr

 

[Rasille]

These mid 00’s artists didn’t even get a chance. Right when the south took over around 2005/2006 time Papoose and Saigon had a buzz in the streets, with more backing who’s to say they couldn’t have been stars?

 

[Street Knowledge]

Who?

ASAP Rocky, Nicki Minaj, Cardi B, Pop Smoke, Ice Spice, Aboogie, French Montana

It’s an outdated taking point from 2006

 

[mson]

Who?

French

 

[The God Poster]

It’s the complete opposite

50 kept NY afloat mainstream when other regions were taking over.

 

[CrimsonTider]

French

French is mainstream but I wouldn’t call him a star exactly. Same goes for A boogie and lil Tjay

Does anyone think these artist would’ve been bigger if they were not from NY? That’s the question

 

[hex]

Joe dissed G Unit on the same track with Ja and Jada. He admitted those AK lines were for Buck who had just dropped sleep with an AK. So they were on a track with Ja, dissing 50/his team. Is it weird 50 replied? No.

Nas started that ish at his central park show. He thru the first Jab.

AZ is a fair point. Dunno why 50 dissed him. Wu tang released that bullshyt ass skit etc because they were upset about a joke diss record. 50 wasn't really out here starting all these beefs for no reason. Nikkas act like he started them all when Joe, jada, dipset, Budden, even Fab all thru shots first. And they've all admitted it. There was no unity in NYC before or after 50. He didn't destroy shyt

at you in here just casually rewriting history.

A joke diss record....yeah, ok. 50 dropped "How To Rob" praying people would respond. And they did. His whole angle with the song was to start beef for no reason. And he was happy as fukk when they reacted. Yayo said so himself.

Conversation on this board is trash because you cats refuse to be objective. Man blamed Wu for responding to a record created to garner responses.

But 50 ain't to blame because "it's a joke diss record".

You cats have got to be mentally ill stanning like this. It's legitimately crazy.

Fred.

 

[mson]

French is mainstream but I wouldn’t call him a star exactly. Same goes for A boogie and lil Tjay

Does anyone think these artist would’ve been bigger if they were not from NY? That’s the question

1. Why don't you take the women into account?

2. Who would you consider a star from the other regions during that timespan?

 

[En Sabah Nur]

wrong thread

 

[JayGatsby]

NY music fell off because it got dated

NY still don't have an updated style that is ORIGINALLY THEIRS

 

[CrimsonTider]

1. Why don't you take the women into account?

2. Who would you consider a star from the other regions during thaat timespan?

Atl

Thug, future, lil baby, Gunna, 21, migos

I’m excluding females because their sound isn’t or style is never really associated with a region

 

[R=G]

Taylor Swift hasn't fallen off..why is that? Got whores on Instagram happy as a motherfukker going to her concert...calling her QUEEN and this and that.