“New York Rap Fell Off Because 50 Cent Made It Cool To Sound Southern & Changed The Sound Of New York Music”
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Ebro
Are you joking?
Rasille
(Rah.Zil.E)
Radio played a huge role. They decided that NY hip hop was no longer getting played.
How so? If you look at the lists of hot rap acts out of NY in the 80’s and 90’s and then look at the 2000’s you see a HUGE drop off.
Amo Husserl
Superstar
NY was too unstable after losin' BIG.
Puffy filled the void after the beef. Bad Boy lost steam by the time of the Shyne case.
Jay-Z and Nas beef opened the gate for 50. Signing with Dre, from Death Row, to Aftermath ended the discussion.
When 50 was hot Jay-Z coulda restored the order, but Kanye outsold 50 not Jay.
Blackballin' 50 was probably the worse thing, hindsight. NY counted 50 out when he was hungry.
Puffy filled the void after the beef. Bad Boy lost steam by the time of the Shyne case.
Jay-Z and Nas beef opened the gate for 50. Signing with Dre, from Death Row, to Aftermath ended the discussion.
When 50 was hot Jay-Z coulda restored the order, but Kanye outsold 50 not Jay.
Blackballin' 50 was probably the worse thing, hindsight. NY counted 50 out when he was hungry.
It's false because I don't magically believe any city, especially one as large as New York, magically stops producing, meaning birthing and raising, talented rappers.
The devaluation of lyrics prioritized rappers who weren't that good and didn't care to be that good, to get the national-scale exposure, while those who did hone their craft to be left under a glass ceiling. This is on top of other typical rap game obstacles.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
NY fell off because their rappers couldn't write a song to save their life, and once the "r&B singer on the hook" trend waned they couldn't make hits or bangers. The vast majority of southern songs from that era were just a rapper and his own dope hook. It's like nobody on the east coast could write a hook after 50 Cent. And I'd argue this is still the case today.
I getwhat you’re saying and yes it was hard to believe for me too. But if you look at the lists of hot rap acts out of NYC in the 80’s and 90’s, the one for 2000 and beyond places in comparison. It seems like the game changed as far as how you get on for one. Dudes expected to be successful overnight. Seems like the grind was gone.
I believe there was also an identity crisis. For a while everyone sounded like a Baby Biggie or. Jay-Z junior. Due in part to the 90’s, materialism became too prominent.
And not just the MC’s, but the producers as well. Who became the 2000’s Marley Marl, Primo, Pete Rock, or Large Professor out of NY? No one.
Can’t forget that the losses of BIG, Big L, Big Pun, and the breakup of the Fugees were gut punches to NY hip hop.
NY will never be NY again until they stop trying to sound like houston/atl/chicago
Yagirlcheatinonus
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This was worse than Lean Back
What was worse was grown men talking about “Let’s get it”
