Next Gen Console Sales Numbers Since 2013 Launch (XB1, PS4)

[rapbeats]

as simple as i can make it for your fanboys.

at the moment the PS4 is powerful and its much easier to access all of its power RIGHT NOW.
this was an issue sony had in previous consoles, where the ps4 was always on spec(well at least ps3) more powerful then MS' system. but in the past those sony systems were harder to develop which means its tougher to use all the power thats inside of the machine. . The same thing has flipped now. but for a different reason. The xbox on paper is not more powerful then the ps4. and its much more difficult to program for in order to utilize ALL of its power. It's power + great developing goes beyond the specs on the page. Nothing about PS4's system goes beyond the specs on the page. If you throw in Dx12, it makes the Xbox go even further then that. So you dont know HOW powerful the xbox will be once Dx 12 hits. the glimpes of pre DX12 , but everything else used properly was RYSE. RYSE was the best looking game on either console. PERIOD. there's no discussion there. there's no argument there either. NONE.

So again. even with the easier programmed system with so called better specs 50% better they say. Yet the best looking game so far was the game from the console with lower specs and harder to program for. how in the world did this happen? I just told you, a great developer can figure out how to use the xbox properly and turn the pre-specs into dust with what they could end up doing with the xbox one.

If there was no Ryse, i would be worried. because there would be no example of how using the xbox's untapped power is even worth the hassle. RYSE proved its worth the hassle.

now lets say this. Lets say if Sony gave you an upgraded PS4 in 3 years time. and this is after all developers learned how to use tiling features/ESRAM on xbox. lets say Sony uses ESRAM and Tiling capabilities along with their On paper higher spec machine. Do you know understand possibilities for the PS4(turbo edition) in that scenario? it could rival PC's. but but..that wont happen. and if it did happen the ps fan boys would hate it right? because you're surely hating it now. or will yall be like those apple fan boys, that only cheer when the same thing you hated is from the competitor but now you have access to it thru apple... lol

 

[King Sun]

again, this is coming from the horses mouth without dispelling all the other fallacies in your statement

http://wccftech.com/phil-spencer-directx-12-massive-change-xbox-expect-1st-party-studios/

explain that

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Such as....

I'd like to hear this spin. I dunno what's so hard for some of yall to get that there is nothing you can do about the PS4 hardware advantage. NOTHING. And don't bring up DX12 acting like the PS4 Dev tools will remain stagnant for some odd reason.

That's your problem my guy


All you seem to care about is graphics... I wasn't just talking about that


Those graphics don't mean shyt to me playing indies that looks like I can play them on a Gamegear... I didn't get a PS4 to play Flower breh


All that shyt don't mean anything if you got nothing to play really. XB1 is capable of reaching the same 1080p/60p as PS4... Just more difficult. And even then, games like Ryse didn't reach it and still looked better than 95% of games on both systems


And there are other lil quirks I don't like about my PS4... But others that I do..


I loved my Vita too but...

 

[rapbeats]

I had to post someones reddit comment cause it was on point

icelandica

Too Complicated; Can't Understand?

The jist of the article is that you have to plan ahead on what assets you want to load into the eSRAM. If you can do it efficiently then it actually is a substantial boost.

The problem occurs when you have to do it manually, since the architecture wasn't public knowledge before the most recent 3rd party games it was not accounted for and hence done after the fact, which is not easy to do. So you're seeing cases where multiplatform games are too late to use it.

With the release of DX12, which actually has built in functionality to handle it easily and the lead time for games this year and next year, we're going to start seeing the benefits.

the article he's talking about is http://gamingbolt.com/xbox-ones-esr...-expensive-draw-calls-can-be-rendered-into-it.

So in other words. MS was sitting up like Sony can go all out on that super engine if they want to. we have a small turbo jet engine. we're just waiting on the jet fuel to be engineered(DX12). and here it comes.

 

[Rekkapryde]

That's your problem my guy


All you seem to care about is graphics... I wasn't just talking about that


Those graphics don't mean shyt to me playing indies that looks like I can play them on a Gamegear... I didn't get a PS4 to play Flower breh


All that shyt don't mean anything if you got nothing to play really. XB1 is capable of reaching the same 1080p/60p as PS4... Just more difficult. And even then, games like Ryse didn't reach it and still looked better than 95% of games on both systems


And there are other lil quirks I don't like about my PS4... But others that I do..


I loved my Vita too but...

Of course the larry can reach 1080p/60 but unlike the PS4 to do it, the larry has to make sacrifices. What part of the PS4 having a stronger graphics card and memory can't yall accept?

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Of course the larry can reach 1080p/60 but unlike the PS4 to do it, the larry has to make sacrifices. What part of the PS4 having a stronger graphics card and memory can't yall accept?

What part of not having anything to use it on can you accept


Ever since that Forza demo dropped, y'all been working overtime in these threads bruh...


Xbots smellin fear and you een kno it

Edit: and speaking of the Vita, I can't even find my shyt. THATS how long it's been since I actually even looked at it. Same with my PS3. My 360 still gets burn with the guitar game , GTA, and Halo4, but my ps3 is in a drawer underneath the tv.


That's what the PS4 is risking itself to be to me. I don't want to see my shyt in the closet 2 or 3 years from now after spending $$$ on it. As long as Microsoft is making games it will never get stashed away

 

[BrothaZay]

@ChrisDorner lost

 

[Rico]

What part of not having anything to use it on can you accept


Ever since that Forza demo dropped, y'all been working overtime in these threads bruh...


Xbots smellin fear and you een kno it

Edit: and speaking of the Vita, I can't even find my shyt. THATS how long it's been since I actually even looked at it. Same with my PS3. My 360 still gets burn with the guitar game , GTA, and Halo4, but my ps3 is in a drawer underneath the tv.


That's what the PS4 is risking itself to be to me. I don't want to see my shyt in the closet 2 or 3 years from now after spending $$$ on it. As long as Microsoft is making games it will never get stashed away

Forza Demo is insane... Not sure what you are talking about.

 

[Rico]

again, this is coming from the horses mouth without dispelling all the other fallacies in your statement

http://wccftech.com/phil-spencer-directx-12-massive-change-xbox-expect-1st-party-studios/

explain that

http://gamingbolt.com/the-division-...prove-performance-visuals-of-xbox-onepc-games

 

[winb83]

I'm VERY comfortable with them going under.

Another would inevitably rise and anyone else would be preferred IMO.

Another wouldn't rise. It would just be Sony and Nintendo. The Xbox people would shift over to Sony and the arrogance would return. "Oh we're a monopoly now? we can do whatever we like."

As much as Sony fanboys try to shyt on Microsoft that company did a hell of a lot for console gaming. The unified online system we have now with a single account across all games and an online marketplace was brought to console gaming by Microsoft and Sony copied it. Party chat across all games, custom soundtracks, cross game invites. Standardizing consoles connecting online without buying extra accessories.

 

[Maddmike]

Xbox is a better all around system. Took me a while to realize it but it really is. It's a shame that they fukked up in the beginning.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

@PS4
^^just like i figured. when facts are brought up, its all laughs.

Exactly. Don't waste your time arguing with these buffoons. Just post a gif and keep it moving. They're not here for honest discussion, just trolling.

I'm sure sony stock tanking in the past few days has gotten them extra angry as well. It doesn't help that the holiday game onslaught on the Xbox one is about to begin either...

Everyone needs to download that Forza Horizon 2 Demo also. Straight piff!

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Xbox is a better all around system. Took me a while to realize it but it really is. It's a shame that they fukked up in the beginning.

You're beginning to see the light my brother.

Welcome to the greener side....

 

[Fatboi1]

Xbox is a better all around system. Took me a while to realize it but it really is. It's a shame that they fukked up in the beginning.

Yeah it really is, I couldn't believe you could watch TV on it. I'm lowkey mad that you can't watch TV through the PS4, I'm missing out.

 

[winb83]

People are being delusional if they think some other multi-billion dollar corporation is gonna step into home console gaming and not just do come cheap ass Android console. If the Xbox fails nobody else is gonna wanna chase that dream. It will be too difficult to start a whole new brand with less recognition than the Xbox has built up over the last decade and try to compete with Sony and Nintendo it took Microsoft from 2001 to now to reach where they are and last generation Sony had to really mess up to open the door and on top of that Microsoft had to blow billions. This game is a lot harder than yall wanna give it credit and nobody else really wants a piece of it.