NFL All-Pro Teams Announced

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Pickens made second team all pro and clearly should have been 1st team while Lamb was hurt and didn't make it at all

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Yes, Chase did not have Burrow for part of the season, but he still had Flacco who can still throw the ball well. I'm open minded, but I don't see how he got first team over Pickens. Don't forget Lamb was out for a bit, where Pickens had to face coverage from the #1 CB on opposing teams.


Chase had 125 receptions, 185 targets, 1,412 receiving yards, 8TD's, and averaged 11.8 yards/reception.

Pickens had 93 receptions, 137 targets, 1,429 receiving yards, 9 TD's, and 15.4 yards/reception.



I don't see one category there where Chase is more impressive or productive. I know you can't extrapolate statistics, but Pickens would have blown Chase out of the water if he had the same amount of targets. Hell, you don't even have to do that and his numbers are clearly better.



Edit: I think Chase is excellent, but I don't see the argument for him being first-team.
When you're that high in total receptions it's difficult to ignore you
which RBs have been AP as a flex?

they propping up McCaffery. Shoe-horning him into the hall of fame. Watch lol.
Doing the same with Stafford
Flex position was introduced in 2016 before McCaffrey was a thing lol

16: David Johnson AP1/Leveon Bell AP2
17: Bell AP1/Kamara AP2
18: Tyreek Hill AP1/McCaffrey AP2
19: C-Mac AP1/Henry AP2 (wtf this niqqa ever flexed lol)
2020-24 the position got dropped
 

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which RBs have been AP as a flex?

they propping up McCaffery. Shoe-horning him into the hall of fame. Watch lol.
Doing the same with Stafford

Sorry, it was 2016 then discontinued in 2020 and brought it back in 2025 as "all purpose"
They've been wack with it though


Really, they should have just kept it position specific.


They also should have 1st and 2nd place votes, rather than just 1st place votes, to avoid situation where there is no second team position
 

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Why not? Similar stats and Ja'Marr had to deal with backup QBs.

It's not cut and dry that Pickens was better.

If you're looking at raw yardage and TD's, then the statistics are similar. If you're looking at their yard per reception, total receptions, and targets, they aren't.

I understand Chase had Flacco part of the season, but Flacco can still throw the ball. It's not like Flacco was a poor backup QB. Pickens had significantly less targets and receptions, yet put up more yards and TD's. I don't think Chase not having Burrow makes up that difference.....
 

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If you're looking at raw yardage and TD's, then the statistics are similar. If you're looking at their yard per reception, total receptions, and targets, they aren't.

I understand Chase had Flacco part of the season, but Flacco can still throw the ball. It's not like Flacco was a poor backup QB. Pickens had significantly less targets and receptions, yet put up more yards and TD's. I don't think Chase not having Burrow makes up that difference.....

Some people value more receptions for a chain moving type game plan, as well as Chase being the no.1 guy for defenses whereas Pickens was not necessarily the no.1 guy
 
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