Nick Cannon on Slavery Never Existing If it Weren't for Guns
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Cute.
And what I don't like is people who don't know what the f*ck they are talking about.
I don't have to prove my blackness or racial pride/love to you.
Plus, did I say Africa the CONTINENT. Nah. I am clear and detailed about my statements. I stated West Africa (and Central)
I'm the first to call out White people, White Supremacist and anyone else who was involved in my ancestors enslavement. And that also includes documented African Kingdoms, Tribes and leaders. So, you can run that ish on somebody else.
I'm a history head. I just don't talk shyt on the Internet -- calling people "Cacs," "C00ns -- or whatever dumb ass groupthink trigger words.
Not saying you are wrong about some of the information you posted. You are right, however, there were some kings/queens who fought against slavery and colonialism.
How come you never mention this?
Benjamin Talton writes; “The success of the European conquest and the nature of African resistance must be seen in the light of Western Europe’s long history of colonial rule and economic exploitation around the world.
In fact, by 1885 Western Europeans had mastered the art of divide, conquer, and rule, honing their skills over four hundred years of imperialism and exploitation in Africa, the Americas, Asia, and the Pacific. In addition, the centuries of extremely violent, protracted warfare among themselves, combined with the technological advances of the Industrial Revolution, produced unmatched military might.”
Talton explains further that ”After the Berlin Conference of 1884–85, at which the most powerful European countries agreed upon rules for laying claim to particular African territories, the British, French, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Belgians, and Portuguese set about formally implementing strategies, for the long-term occupation and control of Africa.
The conquest had begun decades earlier—and in the case of Angola and South Africa, centuries earlier. But after the Berlin Conference, it became more systematic and overt” (Benjamin Talton – Temple University)
History records that; African Kings, Chiefs, Christian Bishops and Muslim Leaders all, “participated in the slave trade”. However, there was also Africans who fought valorously against both colonialism and slavery.
Chattel slavery, as it existed, was the worst kind of human bondage. Africans fought against and resisted slavery in their homeland, on the seas, and in America. There was continuous resistance against Europeans, during every phase of the slave trade. In response to the increasing rebellion, of the Africans, the European slave traders created laws and set up schemes, designed to reduce African resistance.
Much of the information about the resistance to slavery, came from written documents kept by the European sailors. There is enough information, including historical facts, which chronicles the resistance and dislike of the European slave trade. To further establish that the enslavement of Africans, was not universally accepted by the African people; African leaders and those opposing the European slave trade, organized and assigned large groups, to keep watch for slave ships traveling to the East and whose crews were well-known for kidnapping Africans along the coast.
For example, King Ansah of Ghana (1470-1486) had the Fante people watch for European ships and prevented them from coming ashore. Many other African leaders, did not permit Europeans in their kingdoms. In Benin, the people had heard of the intentions of the Europeans, so they killed them as soon as they came ashore. There were some kings who agreed to trade with the Europeans, but attempted to stop it, once they saw the problems that were being created in their lands.
Through the tactics of several African leaders and kings, they were able to minimize the European slave trade, but they could not stop it completely. The treachery and greed of the Europeans hurt the African economy and, damaged their trade relations.
African King Nzenga Maremba, tried to stop the slave trade in the Congo, only after he originally, participated in the trade, in exchange for military items and support from Portugal. King Maremba agreed to release his African prisoners of war to the Portuguese, who wanted the best young African men as a bargaining chip, to be sure that the King kept his word. The Portuguese promised to train and educate the young men to become priests and later to return them to the Congo. King Meremba let the Portuguese convince him, to take the Christian name Alfonso, as a show of support. When Alfonso asked for the return of a few of his former prisoners, who they said had been trained, to serve as physicians, surgeons, pharmacists, assistants for shipbuilders and carpenters, his requests were denied. After having his requests denied several times, King Alfonso learned that his prisoners of war had been sold as slaves in Portugal. In 1526, King Alfonso wrote to King John III, the former King of Portugal, and asked for his help in ending the slave trade in the Congo. He explained the freedoms that he had given to the Portuguese, who had set up shops, become merchants in the Congo and had amassed fortunes. Yet the people in the Congo, could not do the same, because they had complied with the agreements and now, did not have the same abundance of wealth as the invaders. King Alfonso related that the damage was so great that his people and land were being seized daily. King Alfonso ended his letter to King John III, with another request for his help, because it was the will of the people in the Congo and other kingdoms that there should not be any trading of slaves nor markets for slaves.
Other countries that were resisting the slave trade throughout the continent of Africa were Senegal, Ghana, Benin, Nigeria, and Angola.
In 1777, King Agadja, a Dahomey monarch, captured an Englishman and his slave raiding party who had entered his kingdom looking for more Africans. The Englishman and his crew were released after they promised to return all the Africans they had captured. King Agadja gave the Englishmen a warning to take to the rulers of England, that if any other slave traders were sent to his Kingdom or other kingdoms, they would be killed.
In 1787, the Senegal King of Almammy passed a law that made it illegal to take enslaved Africans through his kingdom. To let Europeans know how serious the law was, the king returned the presents French slave traders sent as bribes.
Queen Nzingha of Angola. In 1626 Nzinga became Queen of the Mbundu when her brother committed suicide, in the face of rising Portuguese demands for slave trade concessions. Nzinga, however, refused to allow them to control her nation. In 1627, after forming alliances with former rival states, she led her army against the Portuguese, initiating a thirty-year war against them. Despite repeated attempts by the Portuguese and their allies to capture or kill Queen Nzinga. The Portuguese finally negotiated a treaty with her in 1656. Their treaty remained in effect until she died. Nzinga died peacefully in her eighties on December 17, 1663. Queen Nzingha had a standing order, that any enslaved African, who reached her territory “was free”.(see warrior Queens and warrior queens cont.)
Read more about Queen Nzingha and she is the true definition of an African queen in my opinion.
xoxodede
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Not saying you are wrong about some of the information you posted. You are right, however, there were some kings/queens who fought against slavery and colonialism.
How come you never mention this?
Read more about Queen Nzingha and she is the true definition of an African queen in my opinion.
Thanks
I covered Queen Nzinga, King Ansah of Ghana, Agadja and Nzenga Maremba aka Afonso of the Kongo Kingdom.
And...
- Queen Nzinga reigned during the mid/late 1600’s -- she wanted to stop the Portuguese from expanding the trade in her land -- but also stop their control and the threat of more control there. She did successfully fight the Portuguese for over 30 years but she did still ally and form an alliance with the Dutch Slave Traders. "Her goal was to remove the Portuguese from Angola altogether and have the Dutch as the European trading power on the coast."
- King Ansah of Ghana ruled 1470-1486. And it was honorable for him to protect his people. As for Colonial America and the first enslaved person on this soil it was around 1619. Basically, not TransAtlantic.
- A king of Dahomey [Agadja] once requested that Europeans establish a firearms factory in his nation, but this request went ignored. Firearms became necessary for African nations to defend themselves both from African rivals as well as from European intrusion, but the only way to acquire these weapons was through the slave trade. This situation only benefited the competing European powers that were able to play Africans against each other.
- Senegal King of Almammy - NO. He made illegal to have any slaves MARCH THROUGH his Kingdom. He was not against slavery -- he just didn't want any Muslims enslaved. Source: The French Atlantic Triangle: Literature and Culture of the Slave Trade
- Nzenga Maremba aka Afonso of the Kongo Kingdom
He reigned 1509 to late 1542 or 1543 and it was the Kongo-Portuguese slave trade not the TransAtlantic Slave Trade.
And though he may have "resisted" he gave in.
Although Afonso was outspokenly opposed to slavery and initially fought the Portuguese demand for human beings, he eventually relented in order to sustain the economy of the Kongo. Initially Afonso sent war captives and criminals to be sold as slaves to the Portuguese. Eventually Portuguese demand for slaves exceeded the country's potential supply, prompting them to search for slaves in neighboring regions.
Afonso let this situation continue for as long as it did as an attempt to not be overtly rude to the Portuguese, as he had actively required their help to solve various conflicts within his Kingdom. Afonso I also had been attempting to resolve the situation diplomatically through letters to the Vatican as well as to Portugal. The responses told him that they had little intention of altering the actions of the Portuguese traders. The Portuguese regarded the slave trade as nothing more than typical commerce. This is why the commission was established. The Portuguese showed clear disdain with the condition of the slave economics of the Kongo and attempted to assassinate Afonso I in 1540. This attempt resulted failure.
I KINDA get what he's trying to say... But.
The education system in America is fukking shyt.
The education system in America is fukking shyt.
Lifejennings
Superstar
Nah it was disease that wiped most of the natives out.
Take It In Blood
Banned
slavery existed long before guns but
he may have a point when it comes to african slavery
no way in hell they'd be able to snatch brehs up back then without them
he may have a point when it comes to african slavery
no way in hell they'd be able to snatch brehs up back then without them
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
People are evil, not guns