Nick Cannon - The Invitation (Response to Em)

[Tony D'Amato]

The kind of music Griselda makes is about 2 decades late. They'd be legends in the 90s and early 2ks.

 

[Carlton Banks]

I don't think Griselda gives a fukk about being mainstream or "relevant" to the type of fans you're talking about.

If they did they would've never came out sounding like it's 1996.

Fred.

But then why sign to a major label? Why sign to a label at all? Labels wanna make money and they can't make money if you're not selling records. nikkas that like that gully Griselda shyt ain't buying records/singles.

 

[Loose]

2019 nikkas on this cracker neck

 

[Carlton Banks]

Griselda is relevant, as are Beast Coast, Joey Bada$$, Dave East, Flatbush Zombies, Stro, and others. Their buzz is crazy right now.
Reread what I wrote, though. Trap, drill, and all of that other bs are not the traditional NY sound. The reason that the groups that I named are popular is because they sound like NYC. It's the same reason that Jada, Styles P, De La Soul & Nas are still popular. That NY sound is the reason why Gang Starr's album is being considered one of 2019's best.
NY needs to give trap music back to the south, and drill back to the midwest. Troy Ave was right, NY needs to restore the feeling.

Breh... None of those names you said are selling records like that tho... Even their streams aren't as big as they would need it to be to sell records and be successful. They might sell out some shows here or there but it's still not at a decent level to get the push and sales they need.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

The kind of music Griselda makes is about 2 decades late. They'd be legends in the 90s and early 2ks.

Griselda is dope because they sound like "back in the day". If they actually come out back in the day though, I think they would've been like Artifacts, Bush Babees, or Mic Geronimo: dope artists who got overshadowed by other dope artists with bigger names.
Griselda came out at the perfect time, IMO.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

But then why sign to a major label? Why sign to a label at all? Labels wanna make money and they can't make money if you're not selling records. nikkas that like that gully Griselda shyt ain't buying records/singles.

NOBODY is buying records these days. Griselda, like most popular groups now, gets show money.
Sometimes, being signed to a label means that you can ultimately perform more often and to larger crowds. The traditional record label model is dying, though.

 

[prince_peoples]

Griselda is dope because they sound like "back in the day". If they actually come out back in the day though, I think they would've been like Artifacts, Bush Babees, or Mic Geronimo: dope artists who got overshadowed by other dope artists with bigger names.
Griselda came out at the perfect time, IMO.

Was gonna say this

I fukk really fukk with Benny, but the best thing about them to me is there production

If they would have came out in the 90's they would got overshadowed

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Breh... None of those names you said are selling records like that tho... Even their streams aren't as big as they would need it to be to sell records and be successful. They might sell out some shows here or there but it's still not at a decent level to get the push and sales they need.

People don't buy music anymore. All of the artists that I named (except Stro, he's mostly acting now) are very successful on the road. Touring is where the money is now, not in record stores.

 

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[Tony D'Amato]

Oh we bout to get 50 in on on this

Now it might get fun

 

[hex]

But then why sign to a major label? Why sign to a label at all? Labels wanna make money and they can't make money if you're not selling records. nikkas that like that gully Griselda shyt ain't buying records/singles.

For promo, I assume.

But the album they put out on Shady obviously ain't meant for mainstream fans. That "WWCD" shyt sounds exactly like all their other material.

That's why I said they clearly don't give a fukk about catering to the types of fans you're talking about.

Fred.

 

[Carlton Banks]

People don't buy music anymore. All of the artists that I named (except Stro, he's mostly acting now) are very successful on the road. Touring is where the money is now, not in record stores.

I'm aware. But if we're talking groups they still gotta split that money up. Amongst each other and management. The point is popularity keeps the money going. If you not making popular music you not gonna last. And most importantly you need a strong female fan base. Idk one female that knows or listens to Griselda. Not shytting on nikkas, I'm just being realistic.

 

[TGainz]

Eminem type corny breh... Him and Mariah had a fling back in like 2001... And he still bringing her up in 2019. Nick has every right to defend his baby mama. Should've brought up the racist tapes. Most people forgot about that.

Definitely.

And considering this stupid ass beef is over Mariah he could've went the Nas route and said a "why are you concerned with dissing women" line

 

[Carlton Banks]

Definitely.

And considering this stupid ass beef is over Mariah he could've went the Nas route and said a "why are you concerned with dissing women" line

It's corny AF. Like has he met or been with any other woman besides Mariah and his baby mama??

 

[hex]

I'm aware. But if we're talking groups they still gotta split that money up. Amongst each other and management. The point is popularity keeps the money going. If you not making popular music you not gonna last. And most importantly you need a strong female fan base. Idk one female that knows or listens to Griselda. Not shytting on nikkas, I'm just being realistic.

Uh....nah man.

They aren't really a group. They all put out solo material, and have been for years. Think of a Griselda album as kind of...."The Chronic". It's the whole label rapping, but they're not a group.

As far as the rest of your post....you're talking about the mainstream lane. Female fans and popular music. Due to the internet and social media it's possible to circumvent all that....Conway and Benny just went on a 17 city nationwide tour with Freddie Gibbs.

And I mean....shyt. Freddie Gibbs himself is proof you don't need all that other stuff. Once you got a core fan base locked in, you can tour pretty much forever. Hits and catering to females or young people or casual rap fans doesn't matter at that point.

Fred.