If you think of the card as a phone with multiple apps? No.
Why do you use your smartphone for facebook and online banking? Obviously a card is cheaper than buying every Nigerian an iphone
Nigerian IDs now have the American MasterCard logo.
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If you think of the card as a phone with multiple apps? No.
Why do you use your smartphone for facebook and online banking? Obviously a card is cheaper than buying every Nigerian an iphone
I dont use my smartphone for banking or facebook.If you think of the card as a phone with multiple apps? No.
Why do you use your smartphone for facebook and online banking? Obviously a card is cheaper than buying every Nigerian an iphone
Thats fukking stupid.
Branding your national id and financial records to 1 card held by some cacs
Only bad things will come of this.I dont use my smartphone for banking or facebook.
Thats fukking stupid.
nikkas want people and countries to stay in the feudal age
nikkas want people and countries to stay in the feudal age
FOH with that bullshyt. why cant they have a separate card? why cant they have a program to establish bank accounts separate from a national ID?
They did and it wasn't effective at getting people online
Please read up on the countries you are outraged about
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Cape Verdeans' role as middlemen in the transatlantic slave trade
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/cape...emen-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade.100699/
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/cape...emen-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade.100699/
Dreamestorical
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There is so much misinformation about the card. First of all Mastercard and Access bank do NOT have Nigerian peoples info. Each of the 13 applets in the chip are totally isolated from one another. So basically someone working in the Nigerian penison office does not have access to the corporate salary section on the chip.
On top of that MASTERCARD IS NOT THE PAYMENT PROCESSOR FOR THIS PROJECT. The payment processors in Nigeria are Interswitch, etranzact and Unified Payments Nigeria. All 3 are NIGERIAN RUN AND OWNED COMPANIES.
http://etranzact.com/etranzact/
http://www.interswitchng.com/
http://unifiedpaymentsnigeria.com/
For this particular project MasterCard will be using Unified payments transaction processor. So the company that will really benefit from this will be unified payments.
Infact there are rumors that the reason the deal with Nigerian company Interswitch (verve) to also partake in this project fell off, was because Interswitch verve did not want to use unified payments platform because they are competitors. They wanted to instead use their own platform.
So back to my point. Companies like Mastercard and VISa do not have thier payment processor platforms in Nigeria. If you have a visa or mastercard in Nigeria then you are most likely using etranzact or unified payments, If you have a discovery card then you will be using Interswitch's platform.
Again Nigerians info will never be in the hands of mastercard.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201409010771.html
Again the reason Nigerias government used mastercard is to ensure Nigerians have access to the global financial system. Remember sadly Nigeria has a horrible label of fraud and corruption. MasterCard will add some goodwill and credibility to Nigerian citizens. For example one benefit from this is instead of companies like western union reaping off Nigerians in the diaspora who want to send money back to their families, Nigerians in the diaspora can now completely bypass western union and transfer money straight to their families NIMC cards.
Look I am as opposed to white supremacy and economic enslvament as you guys but please stop putting the westerners on a pedestal. They are not Gods. Just because MasterCard is on the project does not mean they are running circles around the Nigerian government.
if you want more info about the project then go to this link.
http://cardatmandmobilexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/NIMC-National-e-ID-Card-e-Payments.pdf
On top of that MASTERCARD IS NOT THE PAYMENT PROCESSOR FOR THIS PROJECT. The payment processors in Nigeria are Interswitch, etranzact and Unified Payments Nigeria. All 3 are NIGERIAN RUN AND OWNED COMPANIES.
http://etranzact.com/etranzact/
http://www.interswitchng.com/
http://unifiedpaymentsnigeria.com/
For this particular project MasterCard will be using Unified payments transaction processor. So the company that will really benefit from this will be unified payments.
Infact there are rumors that the reason the deal with Nigerian company Interswitch (verve) to also partake in this project fell off, was because Interswitch verve did not want to use unified payments platform because they are competitors. They wanted to instead use their own platform.
So back to my point. Companies like Mastercard and VISa do not have thier payment processor platforms in Nigeria. If you have a visa or mastercard in Nigeria then you are most likely using etranzact or unified payments, If you have a discovery card then you will be using Interswitch's platform.
Again Nigerians info will never be in the hands of mastercard.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201409010771.html
Again the reason Nigerias government used mastercard is to ensure Nigerians have access to the global financial system. Remember sadly Nigeria has a horrible label of fraud and corruption. MasterCard will add some goodwill and credibility to Nigerian citizens. For example one benefit from this is instead of companies like western union reaping off Nigerians in the diaspora who want to send money back to their families, Nigerians in the diaspora can now completely bypass western union and transfer money straight to their families NIMC cards.
Look I am as opposed to white supremacy and economic enslvament as you guys but please stop putting the westerners on a pedestal. They are not Gods. Just because MasterCard is on the project does not mean they are running circles around the Nigerian government.
if you want more info about the project then go to this link.
http://cardatmandmobilexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/NIMC-National-e-ID-Card-e-Payments.pdf
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@Dreamestorical thanks!
Dreamestorical
Pro
The real money in this project is in the payment processor area. So Unified Payments are the ones that are really going to eat well from this project. On top of that in the future if unified payments decides to come up with thier own card like interswitch did with verve then they could easily take mastercards place since the whole system is built on unified payments platform. Now if MasterCard was using their personal payment processor then MasterCard will be truly rejoicing.
Dreamestorical
Pro
These are the 13 sections of the card
Government
• Public Sector
Salary
• Pension
• Social Benefits
• Agric Subsidies
Commercial
• Corporate Salary
• Dividend
payments
Consumer
• Cash withdrawal
• Micro-Loans
• Cash-in, Cash-out
• International
Remittance
• E-Commerce
• Merchant
payment
• M-Commerce
So basically workers pensions, and salary's for both the public and private sector will be paid into the card. This will help to stop corruption and the problem of ghost workers. On top of that the card will assist the agricultural sector by being used as an instrument to provide subsidies for farmers in Nigeria. Also with this nigeria can finally start setting up social safety nets for the citizenry. Then on top of that due to Nigerians identity being stored in the card, it will give the average nigerian the ability to go to banks and acquire loans. Banks in Nigeria will no more be reluctant to provided loans to small and medium scale businesses in the country because of unreliable customer data.
Also with this the informal sector of Nigerias economy will be captured. on top of that a solid tax system can now be implemented. There are so much more advantages to this card.
To simplify things, this card just about removes the middle man and ensures that things like loans, govt subsidies, social safety nets will be delivered directly to Nigerians.
Most importantly since the card is built on unified payments network, which is a processor company that was created and run by Nigerian banks. What this means is that this card will further strengthen Nigerian banks across the country which in turn will mean that instead of the Nigerian government having to go to foreign nations/banks to raise capital to fund projects we can now increasingly rely on our banks to fund massive projects.
http://cardatmandmobilexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/NIMC-National-e-ID-Card-e-Payments.pdf
one positive benefit:
If anyone is following the recent explosion of indigenous nigerian firms in the oil, gas and en energy sector you will know that the ones funding the indigenous firms are Nigerian banks.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/02/energy-financing-nigerian-banks-come-age/
As you can see this is one example of the benefits of strengthening a countries indigenous banking sector.
Government
• Public Sector
Salary
• Pension
• Social Benefits
• Agric Subsidies
Commercial
• Corporate Salary
• Dividend
payments
Consumer
• Cash withdrawal
• Micro-Loans
• Cash-in, Cash-out
• International
Remittance
• E-Commerce
• Merchant
payment
• M-Commerce
So basically workers pensions, and salary's for both the public and private sector will be paid into the card. This will help to stop corruption and the problem of ghost workers. On top of that the card will assist the agricultural sector by being used as an instrument to provide subsidies for farmers in Nigeria. Also with this nigeria can finally start setting up social safety nets for the citizenry. Then on top of that due to Nigerians identity being stored in the card, it will give the average nigerian the ability to go to banks and acquire loans. Banks in Nigeria will no more be reluctant to provided loans to small and medium scale businesses in the country because of unreliable customer data.
Also with this the informal sector of Nigerias economy will be captured. on top of that a solid tax system can now be implemented. There are so much more advantages to this card.
To simplify things, this card just about removes the middle man and ensures that things like loans, govt subsidies, social safety nets will be delivered directly to Nigerians.
Most importantly since the card is built on unified payments network, which is a processor company that was created and run by Nigerian banks. What this means is that this card will further strengthen Nigerian banks across the country which in turn will mean that instead of the Nigerian government having to go to foreign nations/banks to raise capital to fund projects we can now increasingly rely on our banks to fund massive projects.
http://cardatmandmobilexpo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/NIMC-National-e-ID-Card-e-Payments.pdf
one positive benefit:
If anyone is following the recent explosion of indigenous nigerian firms in the oil, gas and en energy sector you will know that the ones funding the indigenous firms are Nigerian banks.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/02/energy-financing-nigerian-banks-come-age/
As you can see this is one example of the benefits of strengthening a countries indigenous banking sector.
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i'm still not comfortable with this shyt with the nsa shyt in the air.
if it were the chinese i'd be more comfortable. america is not your friend. they got you niccas on some keep your enemies closer type shyt.
got this from the net...
SCANDALOUS: Outrage in Nigeria as government brands National ID Card with MasterCard’s logo -
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/feat...th-mastercards-logo.html#sthash.pBzPiEBC.dpuf
they're going crazy in the comments section.
i just feel nigerians have been bought off in the name of economics.
if it were the chinese i'd be more comfortable. america is not your friend. they got you niccas on some keep your enemies closer type shyt.
got this from the net...
SCANDALOUS: Outrage in Nigeria as government brands National ID Card with MasterCard’s logo -
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/feat...th-mastercards-logo.html#sthash.pBzPiEBC.dpuf
The new Nigerian National Identity Cards launched Thursday by President Goodluck Jonathan, with branded logo of the American firm, MasterCard, have sparked outrage across the country amid fears of serious security and economic breach, with many Nigerians calling for an immediate stoppage of the deal.
Nigerians expressed shock and fury Thursday at how the Nigerian Government, through the National Identity Management Commission, NIMC, would surrender a symbol of national sovereignty and pride to a foreign commercial organisation by not only sharing the biometrics of 170 million Nigerian to the firm but by also allowing the firm to boldly engrave its insignia on the IDs.
Many Nigerians raised the alarm over the implications of the agreement in an age that has seen intense data surveillance by the National Security Agency of the United States of America, Mastercard’s home country.
One commentator said allowing MasterCard’s emblem on the Nigerian National ID Card could only compare to the trans-Atlantic slave trade abolished in the nineteenth century.
“The new ID card with a MasterCard logo does not represent an identity of a Nigerian. It simply represents a stamped ownership of a Nigerian by an American company,” said Shehu Sani of the Civil Rights Congress. “It is reminiscent of the logo pasted on the bodies of African salves transported across the Atlantic.”
At the launching Thursday, the Nigerian Identity Management Commission said the cards, designed to also allow handlers effect payments and other financial transactions, will be issued to 13 million Nigerians.
At the completion of the pilot phase of the program, 100 million cards would have been issued, the commission said, describing the move as the “broadest financial inclusion program in Africa”.
The cards will be issued to Nigerians, 16 years and older, and are expected to serve as voting cards in the 2019 elections.
President Jonathan, who flagged off the rollout, praised the outcome of a partnership between NIMC, MasterCard and Access Bank.
“The card is not only a means of certifying your identity, but also a personal database repository and payment card, all in your pocket,” Mr. Jonathan said.
Under the partnership, the NIMC is the project leader, MasterCard provides payments technology, while Unified Payment Services Limited is payments processor. Cryptovision is the Public Key Infrastructure and Trust Services Provider, and the pilot issuing bank is Access Bank Plc.
The Identity Management Commission said it was working with other government agencies to harmonize all identity databases including the Driver’s License, Voter Registration, Health Insurance, Tax, SIM and the National Pension Commission into a single, shared services platform.
For a National ID card project jinxed for decades due to corruption and mismanagement, Nigerians welcomed what seemed like a breakthrough this time, several years after the first attempt at a national Identity Card project ended in fiasco.
But the optimism waned after it became clear Thursday the new ID cards, a key instrument recognised by the federal constitution, will not only bear the Coat of Arms and the Nigerian colours of green white green, but also the logo of MasterCard, a profit-driven private entity.
“Nigeria’s colours and coast of arms is what should be there. It is not an opportunity for advert for promoting companies,” said Eze Onyekpere, Lead Director Centre for Social Justice. “As far as we are concerned it cannot stand. It is not worth it if that’s what they have done.”
Beyond national pride, many Nigerians spoke of the dire economic and security implications for Nigeria.
“Clearly, there are National Security implication,” said Nasir El-Rufai, a former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory. “All these data go to the American payment platform.”
Mr. El-Rufai recalled that Malaysia was the first country to implement a general multipurpose ID card and that the country did so with its own resources and technology to protect its citizens.
Economically, analysts say, the deal also hands over all adult Nigerians as direct and compulsory customers of MasterCard.
The US-based firm appeared so elated at the outcome of the contract that by Thursday, it hired a media consultant, African Media Agency, to publicise the landmark deal all over the world.
MasterCard could not be reached immediately for comments.
Details of the partnership between the NIMC and MasterCard were unclear as of Friday.
A former senior government official, well briefed about the process, said the Nigerian government may have adopted the Public Private Partnership model for the project, with MasterCard underwriting part of the cost of the deal.
Still, the former official, who asked not to be named, said it was unbelievable that Nigeria could not insist on fully funding such a project at any cost, considering its strategic importance to its sovereignty.
“It’s so scandalous that there are countries you present this to and they will be confused,” the official said. “I have never seen this done anywhere in the world.”
The Nigerian Identity Management Commission, NIMC, refused to comment on the concerns.
When contacted by PREMIUM TIMES late Thursday, a spokesperson dismissed the concern raised by our reporter.
“What is wrong with that (displaying MasterCard’s logo on the IDs)?” asked Ben Alofoje, the Assistant Director/Head Research and Strategy, who is the designated media person for the project.
A PREMIUM TIMES reader,Ola Onanugaola, said of the project, “Good idea but bad implementation. Why do we have to brand the e-ID card? Are these people aware of the huge economic and security implications of the branding.
“Any country population database/information is too vital to attached to any non-governmental organisation.”
- See more at: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/feat...th-mastercards-logo.html#sthash.pBzPiEBC.dpuf
Nigerians expressed shock and fury Thursday at how the Nigerian Government, through the National Identity Management Commission, NIMC, would surrender a symbol of national sovereignty and pride to a foreign commercial organisation by not only sharing the biometrics of 170 million Nigerian to the firm but by also allowing the firm to boldly engrave its insignia on the IDs.
Many Nigerians raised the alarm over the implications of the agreement in an age that has seen intense data surveillance by the National Security Agency of the United States of America, Mastercard’s home country.
One commentator said allowing MasterCard’s emblem on the Nigerian National ID Card could only compare to the trans-Atlantic slave trade abolished in the nineteenth century.
“The new ID card with a MasterCard logo does not represent an identity of a Nigerian. It simply represents a stamped ownership of a Nigerian by an American company,” said Shehu Sani of the Civil Rights Congress. “It is reminiscent of the logo pasted on the bodies of African salves transported across the Atlantic.”
At the launching Thursday, the Nigerian Identity Management Commission said the cards, designed to also allow handlers effect payments and other financial transactions, will be issued to 13 million Nigerians.
At the completion of the pilot phase of the program, 100 million cards would have been issued, the commission said, describing the move as the “broadest financial inclusion program in Africa”.
The cards will be issued to Nigerians, 16 years and older, and are expected to serve as voting cards in the 2019 elections.
President Jonathan, who flagged off the rollout, praised the outcome of a partnership between NIMC, MasterCard and Access Bank.
“The card is not only a means of certifying your identity, but also a personal database repository and payment card, all in your pocket,” Mr. Jonathan said.
Under the partnership, the NIMC is the project leader, MasterCard provides payments technology, while Unified Payment Services Limited is payments processor. Cryptovision is the Public Key Infrastructure and Trust Services Provider, and the pilot issuing bank is Access Bank Plc.
The Identity Management Commission said it was working with other government agencies to harmonize all identity databases including the Driver’s License, Voter Registration, Health Insurance, Tax, SIM and the National Pension Commission into a single, shared services platform.
For a National ID card project jinxed for decades due to corruption and mismanagement, Nigerians welcomed what seemed like a breakthrough this time, several years after the first attempt at a national Identity Card project ended in fiasco.
But the optimism waned after it became clear Thursday the new ID cards, a key instrument recognised by the federal constitution, will not only bear the Coat of Arms and the Nigerian colours of green white green, but also the logo of MasterCard, a profit-driven private entity.
“Nigeria’s colours and coast of arms is what should be there. It is not an opportunity for advert for promoting companies,” said Eze Onyekpere, Lead Director Centre for Social Justice. “As far as we are concerned it cannot stand. It is not worth it if that’s what they have done.”
Beyond national pride, many Nigerians spoke of the dire economic and security implications for Nigeria.
“Clearly, there are National Security implication,” said Nasir El-Rufai, a former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory. “All these data go to the American payment platform.”
Mr. El-Rufai recalled that Malaysia was the first country to implement a general multipurpose ID card and that the country did so with its own resources and technology to protect its citizens.
Economically, analysts say, the deal also hands over all adult Nigerians as direct and compulsory customers of MasterCard.
The US-based firm appeared so elated at the outcome of the contract that by Thursday, it hired a media consultant, African Media Agency, to publicise the landmark deal all over the world.
MasterCard could not be reached immediately for comments.
Details of the partnership between the NIMC and MasterCard were unclear as of Friday.
A former senior government official, well briefed about the process, said the Nigerian government may have adopted the Public Private Partnership model for the project, with MasterCard underwriting part of the cost of the deal.
Still, the former official, who asked not to be named, said it was unbelievable that Nigeria could not insist on fully funding such a project at any cost, considering its strategic importance to its sovereignty.
“It’s so scandalous that there are countries you present this to and they will be confused,” the official said. “I have never seen this done anywhere in the world.”
The Nigerian Identity Management Commission, NIMC, refused to comment on the concerns.
When contacted by PREMIUM TIMES late Thursday, a spokesperson dismissed the concern raised by our reporter.
“What is wrong with that (displaying MasterCard’s logo on the IDs)?” asked Ben Alofoje, the Assistant Director/Head Research and Strategy, who is the designated media person for the project.
A PREMIUM TIMES reader,Ola Onanugaola, said of the project, “Good idea but bad implementation. Why do we have to brand the e-ID card? Are these people aware of the huge economic and security implications of the branding.
“Any country population database/information is too vital to attached to any non-governmental organisation.”
- See more at: https://www.premiumtimesng.com/feat...th-mastercards-logo.html#sthash.pBzPiEBC.dpuf
they're going crazy in the comments section.
i just feel nigerians have been bought off in the name of economics.
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ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
Good for Nigeria. Progress!
Mission249
All Star
Believing a sovereign nation's national identification card potentially being linked with a foreign finance corp is the same as having "multiple apps" on your smartphone is naive and borderline idiotic.